I think it is a great draw and am confident we will win.

I am over 50 and Boro have drawn me in again, I never learn 

France caps rise at 4% which will cost EDF 8.4 Billion Euros. We allow EDF in UK to increase prices by 54%

Oh and Winston I think you will find the Windfall tax is what Spain did it was not a labour Idea. Germany have also removed the renewable surcharge and introduced a carbo tax to protect its consumers

I thought we took back control 

France to force EDF to take €8.4bn hit with energy bill cap

But this article is a month old so Johnson must of been busy with something else 

Fuck that Boro just put man United out of the FA Cup
 

Fuck that Bob, Boro just put man United out of the FA Cup 

Lord Ahmed: Ex-Labour peer jailed for child sex offences https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-60260113

Ohand Ben the EX Labour was well before this, please comment on opening post

This Christine Lee

We should never have let that racist cunt Churchill save us from the misunderstood young Adolf.

Fucking shameful 

I refer you to what I said earlier as you appear to be hard of thinking


"BTW it is well documented Churcill was a racist, I also agree that Clement Atlee was correct in insisting Churcill was the only leader for the coming war. Labour, Atlee in paticular insisted on Churchill and worked with him in the national interest throughout world war 2. That does not change the fact that Churcill was also clearly a racist and actually he invented the first concentration camps in the Boer war.

I am happy that he was PM in World War 2"

Dunce!

Even though I want Boris gone all this Partygate guff is just a media storm whipped up and maintained because they don't agree with him.

If the murder of a sitting MP by an Islamic Terrorist can disappear after a few days and a Chinese spy sponsoring the Labour Party vanishes in 48 hours then weeks of Boris-bashing is just spiteful.

You do know the Chinease spy was a dead cat story first reported in 2017 by ALL PAPERS look at the date

Shadow-minister-receives-180-000-Chinese-law-firm

You really believe everything the right wing media tell you. Muppet = media Puppet

He was a Navy Captain who killed people, nobody wants to cancel him they want the true history to be told.
Was he as your article states "A Couragous Explorer" or was he a Navy Captain who killed Indigenous people when claiming Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii for the British Empire.

The truth is he was a NAVY Captain. The Truth is he and his men killed people they encountered. The truth is he was Killed in Hawaii when he attempted to kindnap the ruling Chief of Hawaii

The right want to CANCEL the truth, the WOKE want history to be the truth not a web of lies

Cannot see why anyone would be against the truth when looking at history.

The-gweagal-shield-and-the-fight-to-change-the-british-museums-attitude-to-seized-artefacts

I will take on board some of what you mention which is interesting for a funny fucker like yourself. Don't be offended, but like fuck am I reading that article how much spare time do you think I have at work.I could have read a whole newspaper by the time read that . My main beef fella is people going around doing what they like to property whether you or anyone likes it or not- I don't simple as that really. If these statues come down they come down the right way. Not mob rule when it suits certain quarters.

The fact the whole thing didn't cause much of a stir OTR - Is another good enough indication for me that like your comments I will take on board.

Well as far as I know the only statue that was taken down by mob rule was in Bristol, tell me if I am missing others. People of Bristol had tried for over a decade tried to get that statue of a slave trader removed and it remained in place despite people doing it the right way for a decade.

If you follow the rules and request it be romoved the right way, if nobody takes action do not complain when a jury states they did the right thing as a mob over ten years later to do what the council failed to do.

He was a racist slave owner and his statue now resides in a museumn where it belongs with a better true history. He was not cancelled, the truth was exposed.

BTW it is well documented Churcill was a racist, I also agree that Clement Atlee was correct in insisting Churcill was the only leader for the coming war. Labour, Atlee in paticular insisted on Churchill and worked with him in the national interest throughout world war 2. That does not change the fact that Churcill was also clearly a racist and actually he invented the first concentration camps in the Boer war.

I am happy that he was PM in World War 2

You really believe everything the right wing media tell you. Muppet = media Puppet

He was a Navy Captain who killed people, nobody wants to cancel him they want the true history to be told.
Was he as your article states "A Couragous Explorer" or was he a Navy Captain who killed Indigenous people when claiming Australia, New Zealand and Hawaii for the British Empire.

The truth is he was a NAVY Captain. The Truth is he and his men killed people they encountered. The truth is he was Killed in Hawaii when he attempted to kindnap the ruling Chief of Hawaii

The right want to CANCEL the truth, the WOKE want history to be the truth not a web of lies

Cannot see why anyone would be against the truth when looking at history.

The-gweagal-shield-and-the-fight-to-change-the-british-museums-attitude-to-seized-artefacts

Friend went to the game with her unvaccinated son.
She only had vaccine cards not bar code things and she had to sign a form to say she was vaxxed.
He not vaccinated and had his mates barcode on his phone.  Bloke saw it and said we're not scanning em anyway come on in.
As you can imagine she was fuming.
Whats the fucking point?

Well science has always stated as fact a vacine only reduces risk so our covid passport has always been based on coertion rather than science. You can still catch and pass on the virus when vaccinated

Any gathering/event which needs a passport should require a Test. Tests should be the passport.

My Daughter is triple jabbed and caught Covid new year, the passport is a joke based purely to push people to get a jab. Going somewhere, mixing somewhere - TAKE A TEST then go vax or no vax IMHO

Spot on

Shame so many have fallen for the spin, sadly jobs soon to be lost in NHS when daily testing should be the norm, not have you been jabbed. Test, Test and Test again, if science says 2 negative tests and your safe on day six thats OK too IMHO

You are a spot-on bill - a lot of these Labour supporters expect you to vote anything that has a red tie on.

Cab you imagine the mess the country would have been in with Jezza and Diane at the wheel.

I am not joking when I say things would have been a lot worse in pandemic with them nut cases in charge.

We'd still be in full locked down and hiding away. The only cunts happy with that policy would be the Fly me lot who are workshy civil servants or free loaders. the tapping cunts

Wow - Lock down the borders and no need to lock down the country time after time. New Zealand with a leftie has 52 deaths. We have 152,000.

Lock the borders and only holidays/travel become an issue. Business at home nowhere near as bad as the Johnson shitshow. Economy far better off but yes you may need longer for the 2 weeks in benidorn 

This from the Spectator in 2015 Corbyn, before the media shitstorm

How anybody can see the UK response leading to biggest economic damage and also biggest HUMAN cost and try and say it would be worse under Corbyn seems to defy belief. But I have no doubt you actually believe it.

Media puppet = muppet. The bloke with an allotment is the danger not the lying, self serving arrogant twat who does not care if you die. Look at the death toll and explain how it could be worse.

83,000 people died in England in April 2020 the highest death toll in any month in the last 5 years, what caused that when only 52 people have died in new zealand?

Johnson wanting to take it on the chin is a prime example of his flaws

Friend went to the game with her unvaccinated son.
She only had vaccine cards not bar code things and she had to sign a form to say she was vaxxed.
He not vaccinated and had his mates barcode on his phone.  Bloke saw it and said we're not scanning em anyway come on in.
As you can imagine she was fuming.
Whats the fucking point?

Well science has always stated as fact a vacine only reduces risk so our covid passport has always been based on coertion rather than science. You can still catch and pass on the virus when vaccinated

Any gathering/event which needs a passport should require a Test. Tests should be the passport.

My Daughter is triple jabbed and caught Covid new year, the passport is a joke based purely to push people to get a jab. Going somewhere, mixing somewhere - TAKE A TEST then go vax or no vax IMHO

• Nov 13: Carrie hosts a flat party
• Nov 27: PM attends leaving do and drinking session
• Dec 10: Gavin Williamson hosts DFE party
• Dec 14: CCHQ party!
• Dec 18: Downing Street bash
• Date Unclear: Xmas quiz

According to the BBC an investigation will be held onto 27th of Nov
10th December
and 18th of December

Headset even you must see Boris is in trouble here

Oh and congratulations to Boris and Carrie on their newborn 🎈🎉

When’s the party?

Unfortunately the person investigating the Parties may have attended some and also had some in his own department.

Not sure though the EMail he sent to staff was only titled Christmas Party 

I caught covid early last year and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

Don’t see a problem wearing masks if it helps

A perfectly reasonable position so well said Winston. Hope you had the same view before you got COVID but if not no issue we live and learn. Well most do, some are still stroppy Teenagers only interested in Me Me Me Tommy T

Even if she had no thoughts of blowing herself up at a main event, I’m sure her leaders would make sure we made the mistake of letting her back in .

What Leaders?

Also why are you not concerned hundreds were allowed to return having been ISIS fighters. We are also lucky we never helped ISIS by bombing Assad as Cameron could not get it through Parliment. They were some of the rebels which at the time we wanted to help 

I think the question should be asked Why does the Media only talk about Shamina Begum an ISIS Bride who as far as I know did not commit a crime. At the same time hundreds who actually were ISIS fighters have returned and nobody in the media (hardly) mentions this.

I find it hard to believe she is a danger compared to thouse who actually took up arms

https://www.ft.com/content/11fd7c00-0790-11ea-a984-fbbacad9e7dd

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/isis-british-jihadis-return-uk-iraq-syria-report-islamic-state-fighters-europe-threat-debate-terror-attacks-a8017811.html

Do you admit that your statement " half the country voted tory last time out and have done for 11 yrs or they wouldn't be in power."

Was complete Bollox? 

Maybe the problem some people have is they’re anti democratic? 

I think I may be 

Or maybe they recognise if you only get 30% of the votes but still a majority of MP's that is not a democracy. The system is broken and STV is no better

FIA investigate whether FIA made a mistake and decide no we never made a mistake. 

In other news Downing street press Secretary who was at the Christmas party told everyone no party actually happened. 

OMG that is not the case but that was a silly objection. Penalties have only ever been given if you cross the Safety Car line still infront. Previous penalties of 10s etc only if ahead at the SC Line. Yes he went past Lewis but then gave the place back, thems the rules

As for the second FIA clearly marked their own homework and found they did nothing wrong despite also writing the rules.

If he Red Flagged the race rather than deploy Safety Car you actually get a very short but ultimately Fair race, changing the rules to move ONLY the 5 cars between Hamilton on old tyres and Verstapen on new tyres seems anything but getting a fair race even over 1 lap. The fact that the rules also state that Safety Car should come in on following lap not the same lap is 

Cannot see how FIA win this once it goes to outside court of arbitration, Red Flag would of been a better end but Hamilton was faster all day until he got shafted by the FIA. The responese on Radio to Toto saying thats racing also is not a good look for the Race director, appears he got the result he wanted.

Those cunts still haven't got over the fact their hero Corbyn got the worst electoral kicking that Labour had for over 80 years. He got even more of a shoeing than foot.

They just can't understand it. They think it must be cos they are so clever and everyone else is thick!

 

Bernie quotes a very odd stat only possible with First Past the post that Farage also pointed out prevented UKIP getting seats

Anyway Labour VOTES cast at elections
1997   13,518,167
2001   10,724,953
2005    9,552,436
2010    8,609,527
2015    9,347,273
2017   12,878,460
2019   10,269,051

2019 Labour got more votes than 2005 but in 2005 it formed the Government.

The above are facts, you quote manipulated statistics but as  mentioned on another thread a third of people do not vote. That number normally bigger than the actual votes for the winner. Our system is not a democracy

So you think 8 million is more than 10 million Bernie.

With respect henry lad... that's a bit deep for me mucka. I can't be the only mad bastard out there half the country voted tory last time out and have done for 11 yrs or they wouldn't be in power.

Just to add facts to your LIE Headset

2019 had a 67% turnout so 1 in 3 did not vote
Of the 67% the Tories got 43% of those who voted

So in 2019 13.9 Million voted Conservative out of 47.5 Million voters

Not sure how you equate UNDER 30% as being half the country

Tories 29.36%
Labour 21.5%
LDems 8.345%
SNP 2.61%

None of the Above 32.7% so actually they ALL LOST but our system is fucked IMHO

Few clueless people on here like Headset that are easily manipulated by right-wing tabloids

Daily Mail screams IMMIGRANTS! and they lap it up - turning a blind eye while the most corrupt and incompetent government of a lifetime dismantles UK democracy and funnels off billions in public funds to themselves and their cronies...

England is f*cked because about 40% of it's voters are bootlicking imbeciles, brought up to doff their cap to their "betters" from Eton and accept lies from government and the media. Most working class Tories in the NE have zero clue as to what Libertarianism is - can't spell it, no idea that's what they voted for in 2019

OK apart from Winston being a Snowflake and wanting to "Cancel Culture" Robbso can those who still support Johnson answer why you are not annoyed at what he has done in office.

In paticular they saw Covid as a way to make money as put above
" the most corrupt and incompetent government of a lifetime dismantles UK democracy and funnels off billions in public funds to themselves and their cronies..."

In light of that why are you annoyed at Robbso or Immigrants or poor People or those without power and not those actually costing the Tax payer so much cash, I know there is no such thing as Taxpayers Cash but dropping to your level 



£36 Billion on Test and Trace went somewhere, Johnson/Sunak have PRINTED £400 Billion but nobody has asked for 2 years how are you going to pay for it.

By ‘accepting the reality of drug use rather than eternally hoping that it will disappear as a result of repressive legislation’, Portuguese reform allows drugs to be treated as a health, rather than criminal justice, issue.

OH it was about Oil not principal, lets make lots of money
 

I have tickets for the Ally Pally and watched the Game. Wright was out of order and crowd gave him it all week, accused AL of something which never happened. Crowd Booed Peter for the rest of the Tourney. They knew he did make a mountain out of a .......

Not like you to know nothing 

So you all knew 2 people survived and 5 miles into UK waters neither UK or france sent help?

Three Dead, less than the 27 in the Channel

2 Survived in the channel which I have not seen widely reported but one of them has made a statement

"Mr Shekha said: ‘We then called French police and they told us to send a live location. So we sent them the location, but they said “you are in British territory, we cannot do anything”. We then called the British, but they said “no, call the French”"

I am actually shocked at both Countries response, what has happened to the All Lives matter movement.

Daily Fail Article

Sadly Winston if you look at the companies who now control oil in Iraq it was far from a disaster for corporate interests in Oil. For everyone else in Iraq and those sent to fight and the resulting refugee crisis I agree it was a disaster.

Iraq Oil

Afghanistan and all the lives lost was a way to move to Iraq, they care nothing for Human cost if lots of money can be made. You only have to look at COVID and the VIP Contracts in the UK. PPE which was over priced and not fit for purpose led to many in the inner circle making money regardless of the tens of thousands dying at the same time.

PPE Storage  costing £1 million a day

So glad Vallance made the Vaccine taskforce Independant of the corrupt, by far the best part of our response looking at the failed PPE, Test and Trace and late lockdown nonsense. Johnson is clearly either inept or willing to let people die for money, I know it is the latter as he sees them as OTHER people, Oh back to the refugee crisis and Asylum Seekers. 

Agree with Olly and Winston. Asylum in France is generally double the UK, Germany sees far more than double the total in France. We are 14th in the preferred destination list in Europe.

Hate the media reporting only now looking at Boat crossings, these have increased due to COVID disruping plane and lorry routes. The numbers seeking Asylum is not increasing this year but there are more taking risky Boat crossings. That said we also know there have been previous tragedies in Lorries.

Provide a legal route and asses the asylum claim, 98% claim Asylum and 70% are granted it (including appeals)

These are primarily genuine Asylum Seekers and we should act first with humanity.

After the Boris letter I hope France simply allows those on the French Coast onto a Ferry to make sure no more people die. We then process the claims in accordance with International Law we signed in 1951.

The dublin agreement was not international law simply an EU agreement and UK HAS LEFT THE EU if Alex is to be believed

Hang the Bastard Racist Murderer

Agree with bob and one day you may be sued for this

Headset anser the quesation I asked

And why do you think all asylum seekers want too blow you up.? Serious question because you seem as deranged as the Liverpool Bomber.

Why are there so many refugees/asylum seekers/economic migrants heading to Euorope?
Why do so FEW head to the UK?
Why do UK Media make this a big story when others take/do more

Do you understand who is controlling you to mouth this bull?

Who is droping bombs where they used to live you stupid cunt 

Wow, Tory and Parlimentry corruption costing everybody is in the headlines and you are distracted by this. It costs you nothing and under international law we have to assess each case on its merits. You seem upset at due process.

Germany gets more asylum seekers evey year compared to UK and France combined. France gets double the number of people asking for Asylum compared to UK.

The people causing issues in this country for the majority do not arrive by dinghy in the channel they use private jets and stir your hate.

Others sit in Parliment as Tory MP's laughing at you. Keep reading the Billionaire owned press, Sun, mail, Express, Telegraph and others. Keep missing the point, they love your hate it makes you trigger happy click bait

 

Oh and point me to the law which makes a person illegle for claiming Asylum where they decide.

 

Winston is correct

Three goals in five minutes.  

Come on bill, you’re meant to pretend you’re disappointed.



Piss poor midweek trolling  

Bill is only disappointed if we win. Could not wait to celebrate conceding 3 goals  flowing for Bill

Extra Fishing Licences Mr Macron

HE NEEDS TO BE CAREFUL SIDING WITH THE FRENCH

ALONG WITH ITALY THAT'S ONE NATION  YOU DONT WANT TO TRUST

PURE SLIME AND YELLOW BACK TENDENCIES THEM 2 NATIONS. ...


YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL JOE


https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1514270/joe-biden-news-uk-us-relationship-brexit-fishing-france-emmanu

LEADER OF USA NEEDS TO BE CAREFUL, YOU DELUDED IDIOT. Do you actually believe the garbage you repeat. We left the boat off the list, we fucked up we are a fucking laughing stock.

We have been the lapdog of the US for 40 years, they give not one shit we are no longer a global power and Johnson is putting that in CONCRETE. USA will never let us fuck Northern Ireland, you do know that is an issue that Benny Hill fails to grasp!

Romesh Ranganathan, Boris is ragging the nation you need to add an N for Nigel 

One of the few TV series which worked in Lockdown. Peter Crouch was the other for me, any others?

Should that be knew or hope, two weeks ago you thought we would never win back to back games. Go fill your glass it has always been half full you miserable TWAT bill.

They are Scum  As are anyone who votes for them 

"It's in the misguided belief that those demographics have been disproportionately oppressed within western (capitalist) societies."

Non indigenous people are oppressed in western Societies, nothing misguided there but.

This thread is about South Africa and yes people were oppressed. Who did the oppressing was it Africans or the Western Societies that went to Africa and colonized it!.  He decided on his own to take the knee stop being a Nazi and leave him to his free choice 

"Mr Eustice said the scallop trawler was originally on a list of approved vessels but appeared to have been taken off, but was nevertheless entitled to fish in the waters."

We told them it did not have a Licence to Fish FFS. We took it off the list so they acted accordingly, I am no longer surprised by the incompetence. We are a laughing stock 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19681035.scottish-trawler-seized-france-uk-government-says-two-can-play-game/

However it sounds you will be disappointed Winston, no money in Carbon Capture unless getting something else profitable for it!

I agree this is unconnected to Online abuse and appears that some are trying to Hijack this which is very wrong. However to say it has nothing to do with political rhetoric (farage) in any way is also too simplistic.

Right wing populism including comments by Johnson have increased Islamaphobic attacks which in turn can lead to a response. Anyway interesting article, no excuse for what happend to David Amess it was a tragedy but even if not Causal there appears to be a relationship between right-wing populism and radicalisation to Islamic extremism in the UK.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.13169/jglobfaul.8.1.0034#metadata_info_tab_contents

Totally pointless asking joe public to do anything, dosnt make any difference .

It’s industry and the massive Corps that need to change

Totally correct https://fullfact.org/news/are-100-companies-causing-71-carbon-emissions/

China have now committed to no new coal plant investments abroad and to reduce emissions from 2026. Can only see how it goes but Johnson has funded the replacement of 90,000 gas boilers with heat pumps which is pathetic. There are 25 million Gas Boilers and the funding only covers half the cost.

Insulate Britain is a better idea, Insulate Britain lists two main aims on its website:

1. The government should fund the insulation of all social housing by 2025

2. A "legally-binding national plan" for a low energy and low carbon retrofit of all homes in Britain by 2030
Low energy homes use considerably less energy and use renewable energy for heating and electricity.

The money is borrowed. It's borrowed mainly from the BoE as Bonds, a form of IOU.
The fact that only approx 75% is borrowed in this way tells you that if it is neither without risk or infinitely available.

Any Govt still has to prioritise, make fiscal decisions and ultimately try to balance the books

BOE has one Shareholder - HM Treasury. The money was CREATED by BOE and added to Government Account. BOE cannot force Government to repay. It was not borrowed, it was electronically created (Magic Money Tree). From the article written by someone who studies such things

"There are three differences between an overdraft you can have and the one the government has at the Bank of England. First, the Bank of England can’t turn the government down. Second, the overdraft has no limit. Third, there is no repayment required.

That is a pretty amazing facility that the government has. What it means - and a law of 1866, most recently updated in 2000 backs this up -is that the government can never run out of money. In an instant, whenever it desires it, the government can always have the money it wants.

The point I am making is that the government does not need tax to spend. Nor does it have to borrow to spend. Instead, all it has to do is tell the Bank of England to make a payment on its behalf and it will always do so, on overdraft.

This is not money printing of course: these payments are made electronically, so no printing press is involved. Instead, all that is required to create money is a computer keyboard in the Bank of England that is used to enter the data that increases the government’s overdraft.

Understanding this is vital to appreciating what is going on in modern politics. It is also key to understanding the biggest lie (I use the word appropriately) told by politicians of almost all parties which is ‘there is no money to do what people want’."

MyBoro, what did the government borrow £450 billion for?

Was it furlough?

Maybe 20% covered furlough, failed track and trace needed cash, dodgy PPE to freinds and Donors much of which was useless and the rest they just wasted 

But it was NOT BORROWED, we created the money click the link below
The Government is Lying

What even previous immigrants who now earn minimum wage and contribute to the UK. We signed up to international law and getting them a Pizza seems small change.

Rishi and Johnson have printed £450 Billion and I see nothing for it, yet Bernie says nothing. Be distracted by the nasty immigrant getting a Pizza, not the corrupt Government looting the Country to the tune of hundreds of Billions

BTW we did not borrow £450 BN the Bank of England created it to cover all spending. Every time they say borrowed they are lying. Click on picture for the truth!