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« on: September 21, 2022, 12:03:00 PM »

Will she turn out to be that extremely rare phenomenon of a politician who doesn’t care about the MSM et al,and sticks to her principles? I hope so. It will make a change from the bloated Albino oaf, who flip flopped every five minutes.
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2022, 01:45:42 PM »

Yeah, she has such a great record on sticking to her principles.  souey

Think it would be hard to find a more extreme flip flopper. Remainer to brexiteer,  republican to monarchist, lib dem to tory.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2022, 05:06:41 PM »

That was before she became PM. I think she will get stuff done.
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2022, 10:47:01 PM »

The backtracking's already started with the appointment of a Minister for Women.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2022, 10:01:09 AM »

I am looking forward to my significant payrise  souey

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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2022, 11:47:55 AM »

You must be very rich.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2022, 12:12:18 PM »

They’ve effectively long and shorted the economy as per St Maggie!

Just hope trickle down still works .
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2022, 12:16:15 PM »

They’ve effectively long and shorted the economy as per St Maggie!

Just hope trickle down still works .

'Still' - I laughed out there, Ben lad  :alf:
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2022, 03:58:00 PM »

Works in the Asian Tiger countries!

In Korea early 80s the government asked people to send their gold in for the good of the country. The mother fuckers boomed like a cunt afterwards.

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2022, 11:42:36 PM »

Works in the Asian Tiger countries!

In Korea early 80s the government asked people to send their gold in for the good of the country. The mother fuckers boomed like a cunt afterwards.



The global markets and economists have given their verdict. They think its lunacy. Smacks of a  desperate economic punt by Truss, one most likely generations after us will be paying for.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2022, 01:55:23 PM »

That was before she became PM. I think she will get stuff done.

Massive U turn as PM already. In the campaign she said no more quantative easing. Now today the treasury sanctions the Bank of england to spend 65 billion over the next 13 days to try and stop the bleeding from the self inflicted wound which was their globally derided mini budget.

What a start Liz! She is going to be the worst PM in history, and quite likely,  the shortest serving.
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2022, 02:13:42 PM »

That's what they say about every Tory PM.
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2022, 02:45:25 PM »

That's what they say about every Tory PM.

Over the past five years it’s been bang on the money  :alf: :alf: :alf: :alf:
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2022, 04:07:05 PM »

Been fucking shit so far..................Daft cunt starmer is going to walk into No10 at this rate. He will win by default.
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2022, 06:16:40 PM »

I’m looking forward to the North London elite declaring England ‘woke central’.

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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2022, 09:51:53 PM »

That was before she became PM. I think she will get stuff done.

I have just checked and they have wiped out 10% of my Pension to cut tax for the rich. Without Bank of England intervention Pension firms were going to the wall

Check your pension if you still work, I am retiring in December, Simon Clarke, Kwarteng and Truss have done exactly what Sunak said will happen. Bloody doomsayers

Sunak said she was MAD
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2022, 09:29:29 PM »

That was before she became PM. I think she will get stuff done.

How is the getting stuff done going Bill?
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2022, 09:48:23 PM »

My pension is in the fucking toilet. I truly daren’t look since that GCSE budget. Fucking hopeless
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2022, 10:14:21 PM »

I think you ought to be directing your ire towards the BoE and the shyster pension fund managers.
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2022, 12:12:19 PM »

I think you ought to be directing your ire towards the BoE and the shyster pension fund managers.

You are Jacob Rees Mogg! The BoE stepped in to prop us up and save us from her disastrous mini budget. She will now U turn on all her tax cuts before the end of the month, her political humiliation complete and the country much damaged and diminished.
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2022, 12:43:16 PM »

Bollocks. The BoE has acted far too slowly In not raising interest rates. They need to be at about 5% minimum. The pension fund managers were warned as far back as 2019 to stop investing in derivatives. The banks caused the last financial crash,and the wide boy pension fund wallahs may very well cause the next. Andrew Bailey is an absolute dud.
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2022, 01:14:26 PM »

Bollocks. The BoE has acted far too slowly In not raising interest rates. They need to be at about 5% minimum. The pension fund managers were warned as far back as 2019 to stop investing in derivatives. The banks caused the last financial crash,and the wide boy pension fund wallahs may very well cause the next. Andrew Bailey is an absolute dud.

Dear me

Anyway, my son is about to sell his house; his fixed rate ran out, he was re-hashing and the shit storm erupted due to the ridiculous budget. Look at FT for their views on the claims by Rees Mogg that the BofE caused it. Anyone who picks up on that and repeats it is either a troll or a fucking lunatic. Truss and her mate have done this, and everyone knows it. She needs removing immediately, give it to Sunak, sharpish, and steady this ship  FFS. I wanted Truss because I knew she was an even bigger idiot than Johnson, but being right is at too hard a cost.

Anyway, what a disaster it would be if Corbyn were in power
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2022, 01:31:36 PM »

House prices are way too overvalued and is accepted that a correction is way overdue. Too many people living in zero interest la la land,who thought it would last forever. We are about to encounter the harsh realities of decades of QE. The must have generation is in for a big shock,and not before time. Savings rates on the up.
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2022, 07:10:59 AM »

It seems, Bill, that there’s only you left supporting the budget. Downing Street will simply start pointing at each other just now. See if you can spot a bus that doesn’t have Kwartang under it.

Fucking hopeless.
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2022, 08:25:37 AM »

I'm just not buying all the crap from the MSM and the idiot Tory MPs who support sunk and Remain. What do you think should have been in the mini budget and why? I believe Truss is correct but I do agree she should have explained a lot more clearly why her policy is the only option to attempt to get the UK economy moving.
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2022, 10:56:55 AM »

Exactly Bill.  The lefties can smell blood and may well topple the government without any real alternative policies.

Thats the danger for the country.
The media is trying to tell a tale that people are starving under a Tory government and that under a labour government there toils would be over.

Suckers !!!
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2022, 11:52:22 AM »



The media is trying to tell a tale that people are starving under a Tory government and that under a labour government there toils would be over.



The media is absolutely determined to do for Liz the way they did for Boris. They are totally out of control now.
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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2022, 11:58:28 AM »

Exactly Bill.  The lefties can smell blood and may well topple the government without any real alternative policies.

Thats the danger for the country.
The media is trying to tell a tale that people are starving under a Tory government and that under a labour government there toils would be over.

Suckers !!!


Absolutely.
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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2022, 12:48:23 PM »

Truss has got it right, if she can survive the onslaught for the next few weeks, she should be OK.
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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2022, 01:46:04 PM »

I’ve just bought a new bed and will pay for some rent boys to test it out !

That’s my but for the economy done
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« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2022, 03:19:05 PM »



That’s my butt for the economy done


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« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2022, 03:51:11 PM »

There doesn't seem to be a point in having a Government at the moment.
The broadcast media will bring them all down until the get the Government they want.
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« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2022, 04:29:27 PM »

I agree the politicians have handed control over to the blob.They will live to regret it.
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« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2022, 04:45:27 PM »



The media is trying to tell a tale that people are starving under a Tory government and that under a labour government there toils would be over.



The media is absolutely determined to do for Liz the way they did for Boris. They are totally out of control now.

Eh? The arrogant cow has brought it all on by herself. Aided & abetted by the selfish, racist, geriatrics who voted her in. The very same selfish, racist, geriatrics who'll be the first to start crying when the socialist claw reaches deep into their wallets.
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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2022, 04:54:43 PM »

There doesn't seem to be a point in having a Government at the moment.
The broadcast media will bring them all down until the get the Government they want.

Just extraordinary. Are you telling me they don't want a Tory government?  :alf:

They (quite rightly from their point of view) want a) a Tory government and that must be b) not shite or corrupt, so that it doesn't get steamrollered by that bastard Starmer
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2022, 05:38:11 PM »

What on earth could possibly make you think they want a Tory Govt?

Can't think of any political editor or presenter on BBC/ITV/SKY who isn't a Feminist, Black Rights Advocate, LGBT+Activist or some other minority champion. That's pretty much The Labour Party.

Every day Burley, Preston, Rajan et al just parrot the Labour slogan of the day. Even the sports presenter, chefs and chat show hosts hate the Tories.

The beeb even proudly announce that their priority is Diversity.... A Leftie mantra.
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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2022, 05:44:22 PM »

The head of the BBC donated 400 k to.the tories, thier impartiality guy used came from GB news, their top political editor Nick Robinson is a rampant tory, he was top banana in the Young Conservatives.

Trying to discredit the media and your critics is straight from the Trump playbook
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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2022, 06:09:32 PM »

What on earth could possibly make you think they want a Tory Govt?

Can't think of any political editor or presenter on BBC/ITV/SKY who isn't a Feminist, Black Rights Advocate, LGBT+Activist or some other minority champion. That's pretty much The Labour Party.

Every day Burley, Preston, Rajan et al just parrot the Labour slogan of the day. Even the sports presenter, chefs and chat show hosts hate the Tories.

The beeb even proudly announce that their priority is Diversity.... A Leftie mantra.

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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2022, 07:44:54 PM »

If you don’t support the growth policy then what is the way out of the economic mess the whole world is hurtling towards? The taxing the rich mantra won’t cut it. We have stagnant economic growth, lowest productivity in the G7,the highest tax rates for 70years,and a bloated and inefficient public sector. We will also have a corporation tax twice as high as the ROI. What do you think your pensions will be worth if these issues aren’t addressed?
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« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2022, 09:47:10 PM »

If I was in the Government I’d just say fook it and walk off.

They’ve given everyone on benefits free money* and paid every twat £400 off their electric bills.



*my next door neighbour told me that he got nearly a grand for fook all!


All that plus they paid everyone’s wages for two years ! What do people think was going to be the economic consequences of that, if not a shit storm.
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« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2022, 09:58:27 PM »

If I was in the Government I’d just say fook it and walk off.

They’ve given everyone on benefits free money* and paid every twat £400 off their electric bills.



*my next door neighbour told me that he got nearly a grand for fook all!


All that plus they paid everyone’s wages for two years ! What do people think was going to be the economic consequences of that, if not a shit storm.






Spot on. No such thing as free money. Now the bill is coming in.

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« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2022, 09:05:44 AM »

One of the boreme faithful is now bemoaning the *fact* that
Hunt will be a return to austerity.

  It appears that people didnt want tax cuts and energy bill support they were all craving and begging for over the summer and are now upset that growth leads to a bigger tax intake.


  Suckers !
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« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2022, 10:29:21 AM »

What growth policy? We havent heard any detail on what this growth policy entails beyond some unfunded tax cuts.

Borrowing money to fund tax cuts is not a serious growth policy. Thats just s vague notion that if we give millionaires and businesses a tax cut they will definitely use that extra money to invest or expand. Its fanciful, particularly in the current global climate and the markets have let us know that. The markets know how these things work, truss really doesnt.
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« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2022, 01:34:04 PM »

What on earth could possibly make you think they want a Tory Govt?

Can't think of any political editor or presenter on BBC/ITV/SKY who isn't a Feminist, Black Rights Advocate, LGBT+Activist or some other minority champion. That's pretty much The Labour Party.

Every day Burley, Preston, Rajan et al just parrot the Labour slogan of the day. Even the sports presenter, chefs and chat show hosts hate the Tories.

The beeb even proudly announce that their priority is Diversity.... A Leftie mantra.

 :alf: :alf:

If you had a justifiable opinion you'd have posted it.
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« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2022, 01:46:27 PM »

The head of the BBC donated 400 k to.the tories, thier impartiality guy used came from GB news, their top political editor Nick Robinson is a rampant tory, he was top banana in the Young Conservatives.

Trying to discredit the media and your critics is straight from the Trump playbook

We're talking about actual content and output.

However... plenty of Labour adjutants at the BBC. June Sarpong was never with GBNews, she's a socialist feminist. Andrew Marr was a Maoist and member of Socialist Campaign for Labour Victory.

Taking over broadcast media and silencing your critics is straight out of the Biden playbook
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« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2022, 01:58:05 PM »

What growth policy? We havent heard any detail on what this growth policy entails beyond some unfunded tax cuts.

Borrowing money to fund tax cuts is not a serious growth policy. Thats just s vague notion that if we give millionaires and businesses a tax cut they will definitely use that extra money to invest or expand. Its fanciful, particularly in the current global climate and the markets have let us know that. The markets know how these things work, truss really doesnt.

That all depends on if you think growth is important or not. And is so, how will you do it?
Growth can only happen though investment domestically or from abroad. How would you propose to attract that investment without incentives?

Places like Singapore are only booming because of investment attracted by lower personal and corporation taxes and also less regulation. The Celtic Tiger bubble happened entirely because of fiscal interventions.

Raising taxes to help those at the bottom may be a lovely display of virtue signalling but eventually those paying for it invest less and those receiving become reliant.

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« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2022, 08:02:49 AM »

What growth policy? We havent heard any detail on what this growth policy entails beyond some unfunded tax cuts.

Borrowing money to fund tax cuts is not a serious growth policy. Thats just s vague notion that if we give millionaires and businesses a tax cut they will definitely use that extra money to invest or expand. Its fanciful, particularly in the current global climate and the markets have let us know that. The markets know how these things work, truss really doesnt.

That all depends on if you think growth is important or not. And is so, how will you do it?
Growth can only happen though investment domestically or from abroad. How would you propose to attract that investment without incentives?

Places like Singapore are only booming because of investment attracted by lower personal and corporation taxes and also less regulation. The Celtic Tiger bubble happened entirely because of fiscal interventions.

Raising taxes to help those at the bottom may be a lovely display of virtue signalling but eventually those paying for it invest less and those receiving become reliant.



Well if you want to promote growth from abroad then the daftest thing you could possibly do is leave the worlds biggest trading block responsible for most of your trade where even your own govt. Calcuates that will cost you 2 to 3 % GDP.

Tax cuts can be financial stimulus but you have to be able to pay for , if you saddle yourself with debt to pay for them then your interest rates go up and it counters any benefits of tax cuts. The key to promoting growth is getting inflation under control and making it cheap to borrow.

Growth on tax cuts alone is even more unlikely in the midst of a gobal economic crisis where all your customers are not spending money.  That is economic orthodoxy. Truss, like the rest of the libertarian right, are deluded about their own ideas and about the UKs strength and standing .She thought she could take on the financial markets with a thoughtless ideology and she has had her arse handed to her, unfortunately  its diminished us even further.
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« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2022, 11:27:39 AM »

The people of the country democratically chose to do so, so that we could control our own fiscal and monetary destiny. You may disagree, that's democracy.

When you're in a position to pay for tax cut, you don't really need them. And how do you propose to control inflation if not by raising Interest Rates? That's what the US did causing the MSM to scream about a 'Tanking Sterling' allowing speculators to short the pound thus forcing the Government to raise our Interest Rates. rava

We had to do something to create growth, doing nothing wasn't an option. High-taxes always stifle growth. Labour agreed with 90% of the mini-budget only disagreeing with the (now reversed) tax cuts and in the absence of a credible alternative it was thought that leaving businesses and individuals with more of the money they have earned would stimulate investment and growth.

The risk was always how they spent that extra cash.
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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2022, 07:14:26 AM »

Scary stuff going on in the UK right now with an effective coup being lead by Hunt. The Tories are finished. For those of you thinking Truss' mini budget was bad wait until you get full Cameron/Osbourne austerity again, because it's "what the markets want"

Those of you in here need trumpeting the actions of the IMF etc need to give your heads a shake, they do not have your best interests at heart. Doesn't matter if they're the enemy of your enemy, the IMF et al will grind you under their boots. The sight of left wingers championing the "market" and all it's various representatives is a bit sickening to be honest. The people that suffer will be the usual poor bastards, ie. us, mainly, northerners and the working class.

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« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2022, 02:33:18 PM »

Who does have the interests of white, working-class, north eastern blokes at heart?
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