TechnoTronic
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« on: April 06, 2021, 08:42:20 PM » |
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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56656356Even if the vaccine was the cause, and this is still not proven, the numbers suggest around one death in every 2.5 million people vaccinated in the UK All very good unless you are that 1 person that got the jab. 
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2021, 11:23:22 PM » |
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Paracetamol carries more risk Joke: Why is there no aspirin in the jungle? Because the parrots eat 'em all
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2021, 02:13:05 AM » |
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At least Parrots Eat Em All has a legitimate use and proven to work.. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2021, 09:21:09 AM » |
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Absolutely no evidence of a link to blood clots whatsoever. Yet, every news station in the uk is running it 24/7 with various cunts giving there opinion and it goes on and on and on and on. And yet we are talking covid passports 
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2021, 11:14:08 AM » |
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The papers wont rest until the Astra Zeneca gets stopped.
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2021, 12:16:19 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2021, 12:30:27 PM » |
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Careful, Tez! 
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2021, 12:34:01 PM » |
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I remain to be convinced that vaccinating healthy younger people is definitely the right thing to do but all the stats I've seen do suggest that vaccinating older people is absolutely saving lives
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2021, 01:11:51 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
Out of 18,000,000 who have had it ffs 
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2021, 02:22:46 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
As yet a causal link has not been proven.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2021, 02:34:12 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
Out of 18,000,000 who have had it ffs  Tiny percentage I know, just 63 times higher than the blood clot 7 is all.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2021, 02:35:13 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
As yet a causal link has not been proven. It's the governments own "yellow card" figures. It's not quite as casual as "for any reason within 28 days"
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2021, 03:29:50 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
Out of 18,000,000 who have had it ffs  421 needless deaths of being duped into getting it "to keep them safe" by the government. Ah well they would have only died of Covid anyhow from not having the vaccine. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2021, 03:37:59 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
Out of 18,000,000 who have had it ffs  421 needless deaths of being duped into getting it "to keep them safe" by the government. Ah well they would have only died of Covid anyhow from not having the vaccine.  Do you honestly think there would have been less than 421 additional covid deaths if there was no vaccine?
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2021, 05:18:17 PM » |
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Second one for me monday  Just need my passport now 
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2021, 05:33:00 PM » |
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Then your twice weekly testing. 
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2021, 06:16:20 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
Out of 18,000,000 who have had it ffs  421 needless deaths of being duped into getting it "to keep them safe" by the government. Ah well they would have only died of Covid anyhow from not having the vaccine.  Do you honestly think there would have been less than 421 additional covid deaths if there was no vaccine? How do we know the real statistics of Covid deaths, when you die of natural causes etc but get put down as a Covid death? I know someone that had kidney cancer for years and died last May, they tried to put it down as a Covid death. He didn't even test positive for Covid. Countries are on a decline of positive testing in areas where the vaccine is not that readily available. Herd immunity is taking place like it should have done from the start. The fact that you have to get tested to see if you have it or have had it is quite frankly absurd for a global pandemic. The whole thing was over exaggerated/mis diagnosed from the start and there is no way governments are going to admit they were wrong.
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2021, 06:25:32 PM » |
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You can only die of Covid now in the U.K. No other causes allowed.
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2021, 06:34:12 PM » |
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You should have a look at Brazil for successful herd immunity.
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2021, 06:42:02 PM » |
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You should have a look at Brazil for successful herd immunity.
Sort of a glib crack to make a point, but that is the exact truth. The is no such fucking thing as herd immunity. Taking no action, no lockdowns, no distancing or masks condemns, I actually, millions to die. All emergency services overwhelmed so more minor cases die because there’s fifty for every machine Herd immunity is the weakest die and so do plenty of others who *would* have survived but we had zero resources to cope. The most selfish ever suggestion as a policy.
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2021, 06:44:21 PM » |
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It wasn’t meant to be glib, it’s a fucking tragedy what’s going on over there with a mad man in charge. Our COB experts know better though 
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2021, 09:31:26 AM » |
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Nearly 10% of Brazil exist in favelas. Social distancing etc is not an option.
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2021, 09:34:05 AM » |
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You can have one person not from your household meet you in your garden, but you must remain 2 metres apart at all times.  Okey dokey. Bolsonaro is crackers like.
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2021, 09:37:09 AM » |
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I did a private tour of a favela in Rio.
Weird when the local barber shares a shop with a brothel.
Gun shot holes everywhere.
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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2021, 09:38:45 AM » |
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Nearly 10% of Brazil exist in favelas. Social distancing etc is not an option.
90% don't, is another view
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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2021, 11:37:53 AM » |
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Or 21 million people do and 190 million don't.
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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2021, 05:46:08 PM » |
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Or 21 million people do and 190 million don't.
And the life expectancy is 48 for those in the favela before covid struck. BTW - Sweden doing well ....
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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2021, 11:51:11 PM » |
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421 deaths between 4th Jan and 21st March in the UK after taking AZ vaccine. 7 is the number from blood clots only. Seems to me that the papers are on the side of AZ in this.
Out of 18,000,000 who have had it ffs  421 needless deaths of being duped into getting it "to keep them safe" by the government. Ah well they would have only died of Covid anyhow from not having the vaccine.  Do you honestly think there would have been less than 421 additional covid deaths if there was no vaccine? How do we know the real statistics of Covid deaths, when you die of natural causes etc but get put down as a Covid death? I know someone that had kidney cancer for years and died last May, they tried to put it down as a Covid death. He didn't even test positive for Covid. Countries are on a decline of positive testing in areas where the vaccine is not that readily available. Herd immunity is taking place like it should have done from the start. The fact that you have to get tested to see if you have it or have had it is quite frankly absurd for a global pandemic. The whole thing was over exaggerated/mis diagnosed from the start and there is no way governments are going to admit they were wrong. Only real thing to look at is excess deaths - ie Deaths above Normal https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-mapsUk is at bottom of page, all European country data is available. It is true over 100,000 excess deaths in UK mean Boris fucked it. All OK though making loads off a vaccine so money train goes on. Shut the border, get rid of the virus and open everything safely. 30,000 possible more deaths from next wave says government advisor https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-scientists-predicted-at-least-30-000-more-coronavirus-deaths-under-most-optimistic-model-for-lifting-lockdown-12226058
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2021, 06:51:13 AM » |
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BTW - Sweden doing well .... 33500 deaths related to COVID. Not so sure they’re doing that well.
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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2021, 07:34:57 AM » |
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Lifestyles not hardly affected, kids at school, leisure industry not on its knees etc apart from social distancing and now fairing better than most Eurpoean countries ... indicating lockdowns were not an ideal strategy
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« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2021, 09:31:28 AM » |
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I’m certain the lifestyle of 33500 people has been severely affected.
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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2021, 09:43:05 AM » |
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« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2021, 12:55:01 PM » |
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The Sweden bashers can do one. They haven’t wrecked their economy or demoralised their people. Deaths were not massively elevated. It’s irrelevant how they compared against their neighbours. If the whole of Europe had done what they did we would have been in a far better position and we wouldn’t have even needed vaccines.
Boris would have been far better off blowing the money in cocaine and hookers instead of carrying out the biggest waste of money in history
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« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2021, 02:50:00 PM » |
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Apologies Terry 13621 is the latest figure. I read the wrong stats. Still higher than most if not all of its Scandinavian neighbours.
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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2021, 03:55:55 PM » |
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Comparing Sweden with her immediate neighbours might well be instructive, but there is absolutely no point whatsoever in saying we should have followed Sweden's lead. Sweden relied on the goodwill of her people in following sensible measures. Scandinavian people tend to trust their governments more, irrespective of whether they voted for them, or not. Contrast that to how utterly fractured Britain is. And I doubt Sweden has anywhere near the amount of mindless arseholes as Britain has spawned. Britain's biggest mistake was made when the police didn't prosecute Covid rule breakers from the start. Unfortunately there are too many idiots in this country who cannot be trusted. NOT anywhere near a majority of people, by the way, but during a pandemic, a minority of fuckwits can cause real problems.
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