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« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2020, 03:52:18 PM »

The latest cultural awareness is calling for the removal of a white Jesus. Apparently it should be based on facts and Jesus would have looked middle-eastern. Whoís fucking facts are those? He was a leading character in a fictional book. When will these daft cunts fuck off and put their efforts into helping the human race with things that matter.

Pile - there is more historical evidence for the existence of Jesus than Julius Ceasar.

Whether he was the son of God is open to your interpretation but there certainly was a man who was famous in that period called Jesus.


That was a mexican on his jollies, it was pronounced "hayzeus"..............

Mexicans at that time didn't have Spanish names  mcl

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« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2020, 03:53:30 PM »

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« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2020, 05:07:53 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2020, 05:09:19 PM »

The latest cultural awareness is calling for the removal of a white Jesus. Apparently it should be based on facts and Jesus would have looked middle-eastern. Whoís fucking facts are those? He was a leading character in a fictional book. When will these daft cunts fuck off and put their efforts into helping the human race with things that matter.

Pile - there is more historical evidence for the existence of Jesus than Julius Ceasar.

Whether he was the son of God is open to your interpretation but there certainly was a man who was famous in that period called Jesus.

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« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2020, 05:40:38 PM »

Sorry all my image right are my own

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« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2020, 05:53:32 PM »

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« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2020, 05:55:07 PM »

Jesus was a socialist
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« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2020, 06:03:06 PM »

Bejesus' he was Irish so he was. :pope2:
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« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2020, 06:32:10 PM »


Shite i forgot Bobup would correct me  :like:

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« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2020, 06:58:38 PM »

Jesus was a socialist

He obviously didnít look Chinese then.  mcl
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« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2020, 07:22:59 PM »

Probably not though some theories state he could have been influenced by buddhism
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« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2020, 08:48:54 PM »

Probably not though some theories state he could have been influenced by buddhism

Buddhism is far better than Christianity.

They worship baldies.

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« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2020, 08:50:46 PM »

It's not apples with apples though, Buddhism isn't a religion
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« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2020, 08:54:28 PM »

It's not apples with apples though, Buddhism isn't a religion

It fucking is to me you know-nowt-twat

 

And a lifestyle.
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« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2020, 08:56:16 PM »

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« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2020, 10:30:50 PM »

Jesus was a socialist


No he fucking wasn't.

Where does it say in the new testament

"take ye what of others they need not and redistribute how you see fit, make of ye kin the most needy and bestow begotten wealth to thy friends and family" ?

It doesn't. Stop telling porkies  mcl

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« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2020, 10:34:13 PM »

PLAYED WELL TONIGHT FOR MAN CITY  mcl
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« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2020, 10:42:42 PM »

PLAYED WELL TONIGHT FOR MAN CITY  mcl

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« Reply #68 on: June 29, 2020, 08:22:58 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.
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« Reply #69 on: June 29, 2020, 09:13:16 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.

Christians were persecuted at the time by the jews so much of the early records of Jesus were destroyed.

There is practically no disagreement amongst those who study history as to the existence of Jesus.
But of course those who hate Christians continue to spread false information like the zeitgeist film bullshit.

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« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2020, 09:14:44 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.
I spent some time reading up on this. There are a lot of written texts within 25-40 years of his death, they are allegedly the words of people who seen/heard him first hand.
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« Reply #71 on: June 29, 2020, 09:18:14 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.
I spent some time reading up on this. There are a lot of written texts within 25-40 years of his death, they are allegedly the words of people who seen/heard him first hand.

There would have been thousands of records and texts Pile but the Jews of the time and later sought to find them and destroy them.
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« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2020, 09:18:27 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.

Christians were persecuted at the time by the jews so much of the early records of Jesus were destroyed.

There is practically no disagreement amongst those who study history as to the existence of Jesus.
But of course those who hate Christians continue to spread false information like the zeitgeist film bullshit.



It is not true there is no disagreement. The first part is impossible to prove. We can only prove what we have not what we don't have.
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« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2020, 09:20:39 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.
I spent some time reading up on this. There are a lot of written texts within 25-40 years of his death, they are allegedly the words of people who seen/heard him first hand.

Sounds about right. the Gospels from memory. Could be true, could be stories they invented to spread influence. We can't prove it either way. One man tells a story, another man hears it and tells in elsewhere.
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« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2020, 09:24:38 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.
I spent some time reading up on this. There are a lot of written texts within 25-40 years of his death, they are allegedly the words of people who seen/heard him first hand.

Sounds about right. the Gospels from memory. Could be true, could be stories they invented to spread influence. We can't prove it either way. One man tells a story, another man hears it and tells in elsewhere.

Partly the gospels and partly Roman records.
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« Reply #75 on: June 29, 2020, 09:29:13 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.
I spent some time reading up on this. There are a lot of written texts within 25-40 years of his death, they are allegedly the words of people who seen/heard him first hand.

There would have been thousands of records and texts Pile but the Jews of the time and later sought to find them and destroy them.
possibly, itís hard to know.

One thing we should remember is that no new material will ever come about so having more peers agree/disagree with theologians and historians over time does not make stuff more or less real.

There is still not a single scrap of evidence that the battle of Hastings took place and that was a thousand years after Jesus.
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« Reply #76 on: June 29, 2020, 09:36:04 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.
I spent some time reading up on this. There are a lot of written texts within 25-40 years of his death, they are allegedly the words of people who seen/heard him first hand.

There would have been thousands of records and texts Pile but the Jews of the time and later sought to find them and destroy them.
possibly, itís hard to know.

One thing we should remember is that no new material will ever come about so having more peers agree/disagree with theologians and historians over time does not make stuff more or less real.

There is still not a single scrap of evidence that the battle of Hastings took place and that was a thousand years after Jesus.

I thought the issues with Hastings is because the train of thought lately is that it did not happen in Hastings?....
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« Reply #77 on: June 29, 2020, 09:36:11 AM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.

Christians were persecuted at the time by the jews so much of the early records of Jesus were destroyed.

There is practically no disagreement amongst those who study history as to the existence of Jesus.
But of course those who hate Christians continue to spread false information like the zeitgeist film bullshit.



It is not true there is no disagreement. The first part is impossible to prove. We can only prove what we have not what we don't have.

I didn't say there was no disagreement. Some idiots will tell you the world is flat. There's always disagreement.
I said there was practically no disagreement amongst those who study the period.

We know for certain that the Jews destroyed many works and texts from the time during and after the Jewish revolt in Jerusalem.
There is a book detailing this called Jewish Revolts and Jewish Christian Relations.

https://brill.com/view/book/edcoll/9789004352971/BP000019.xml

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« Reply #78 on: June 29, 2020, 10:08:59 AM »

According to the Bible,Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Palestine, a country where names like

Achmed,Mohammed,Abdul,Asif and Youssuf are commonplace.

Yet however he found friends called Matthew,Mark,Luke, John,Simon and Paul who all liked supping wine.

Now that's what I call a miracle..................
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« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2020, 10:15:42 AM »

According to the Bible,Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Palestine, a country where names like

Achmed,Mohammed,Abdul,Asif and Youssuf are commonplace.

Yet however he found friends called Matthew,Mark,Luke, John,Simon and Paul who all liked supping wine.

Now that's what I call a miracle..................

Because you're taking it out of the context of the time Ned.

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« Reply #80 on: June 29, 2020, 12:26:23 PM »

According to the Bible,Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Palestine, a country where names like

Achmed,Mohammed,Abdul,Asif and Youssuf are commonplace.

Yet however he found friends called Matthew,Mark,Luke, John,Simon and Paul who all liked supping wine.

Now that's what I call a miracle..................

If you're not called Aethelwulf or Athelstan or something like that are you even English?
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« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2020, 02:26:14 PM »

I spent some time reading up on this. There are a lot of written texts within 25-40 years of his death, they are allegedly the words of people who seen/heard him first hand.

There would have been thousands of records and texts Pile but the Jews of the time and later sought to find them and destroy them.

It's because Jesus was a ginger.

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« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2020, 06:30:34 PM »

To be fair i think there are plenty of historical texts and records that Jesus existed but none of the records of the time make any claim to him being son of god or a miracle worker. He was just a joiner who was a political upstart against roman occupation. Bit of a SFLD really. The new testament came 70 years or so after his death and that is the no evidence fictional stuff but i think most historians agree there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He just wasn't religious .

Think there was only one physical description of Jesus and it was something like dark skinned with woolly hair.

There are no historical records that he existed from his lifetime. First time he is mentioned is long after his death, from memory several decades after his death.
I spent some time reading up on this. There are a lot of written texts within 25-40 years of his death, they are allegedly the words of people who seen/heard him first hand.

There would have been thousands of records and texts Pile but the Jews of the time and later sought to find them and destroy them.
possibly, itís hard to know.

One thing we should remember is that no new material will ever come about so having more peers agree/disagree with theologians and historians over time does not make stuff more or less real.

There is still not a single scrap of evidence that the battle of Hastings took place and that was a thousand years after Jesus.

I thought the issues with Hastings is because the train of thought lately is that it did not happen in Hastings?....
Timeteam reckon it was held at the top of a hill where there is now a roundabout but itís based on evidence written centuries later. Not a single scrap of evidence or documents at the time, even with all the modern geology practices they canít find a single piece of armour or weaponry (theyíre found around old roads all over the country). The Bayeux tapestry is the earliest evidence and was made ten years later. The word Bayeux relates to where it was made but itís now been confirmed it was actually made in England.

I donít normally do conspiracy theories but I reckon either the royals sold us at the time or there was a coup. One day you pay taxes to an English royal, next day some Norman fella rocks up and you pay him after he allegedly conquered your land. Thereís loads of evidence of past battles, especially ones of this size. The rumour has been repeated for centuries and historians make a living out of it, whoís going to challenge the flimsy proof (or lack of)?

Next week Iíll debunk the battle of Bannockburn  charles
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