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« on: May 12, 2020, 10:24:10 AM »

Europe's biggest selling newspaper now says lockdown was a huge mistake with the politicians favoring a small number of WHO and therefore Bill Gates funded scientists.

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/05/11/germanys-das-bild-says-lockdown-was-a-huge-mistake/

Sweden is conclusive proof lockdown was a piss poor strategy, it saved no lives and protected nothing.
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2020, 10:55:41 AM »

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/11/epidemiologist-slams-disgraced-u-k-scientists-coronavirus-model-grave-scientific-misconduct/

For those who are not in the computational fields: “my code is too complicated for you to get it” is not an acceptable excuse. It is the duty of everyone who releases code to document it – within the codebase or outside (or a combination of the two). Greater minds than Neil Ferguson (with all due respect) have a tough enough time navigating a large code base, and especially where you have collaborators, it is not unusual to need a second or two to remember what a particular function is doing or what the arguments should be like. Or, to put it more bluntly: for thirteen years, taxpayer funding from the MRC went to Ferguson and his team, and all it produced was code that violated one of the most fundamental precepts of good software development – intelligibility

There is wide support for a science-driven response to COVID-19, but very little scrutiny of the science behind many of the predictions that informed early public health measures. Hopefully, a Royal Commission with subpoena powers will have the opportunity to review in detail whether Ferguson intentionally hid the model from HM Government the way he hid it from the rest of the world or whether the government’s experts just did not understand how to scrutinise or assess a model – or, the worst case scenario: they saw the model and still let it inform what might have been the greatest single decision HM Government has made since 1939, without looking for alternatives (there are many other modelling approaches, and many developers who have written better code).
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2020, 11:44:04 AM »

Bob - nobody reads your shite posts

Really.......

 
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2020, 12:18:15 PM »

Bob - nobody reads your shite posts

Really.......

 

You did  mcl
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 12:51:44 PM »

" Sweden is conclusive proof lockdown was a piss poor strategy, it saved no lives and protected nothing."

Sweden strategy is not working they have more than 10x the covid deaths of the other nordic countries and has the 6th highest death rate per capita in the world. Only Belguim, France, Spain, Italy and the UK are higher. Breitbart are far from mainstream, started and bankrolled by a ultra conservative right wing not job.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2020, 01:03:15 PM »

" Sweden is conclusive proof lockdown was a piss poor strategy, it saved no lives and protected nothing."

Sweden strategy is not working they have more than 10x the covid deaths of the other nordic countries and has the 6th highest death rate per capita in the world. Only Belguim, France, Spain, Italy and the UK are higher. Breitbart are far from mainstream, started and bankrolled by a ultra conservative right wing not job.

What complete nonsense.

Is Sweden's death rate on the up? No.

They've had their peak without lockdown restrictions, restrictions which were designed to limit the impact of the peak.

Was Swedens health service overwhelmed? No.

Other Scandinavian countries haven't had their peak so claiming their lower death numbers is a clear indication of Swedens system not working is a ridiculous comparison.

There is not and never has been one single shred of evidence that this lockdown saves lives.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2020, 01:24:44 PM »

"Is Sweden's death rate on the up? No"

It is levelling off so they are probably 3 or 4 weeks behind the UK. Sweden has put some co vid measures in place, not as strong as nearly all other countries but it still has measures in place. They have had the highest care home death rate in the world. Of course the swedish health service hasn't been overwhelmed it spends about 40x the money per person on health the uk.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2020, 01:39:36 PM »

"Is Sweden's death rate on the up? No"

It is levelling off so they are probably 3 or 4 weeks behind the UK.

Wrong again.



Sweden has put some co vid measures in place, not as strong as nearly all other countries but it still has measures in place. They have had the highest care home death rate in the world. Of course the swedish health service hasn't been overwhelmed it spends about 40x the money per person on health the uk.

You'll be hard pressed to find someone who says certain Covid measures such of stopping mass gathering of people is a bad policy. Full lockdown is ridiculous.

Sweden:

- schools and universities open
- bars, cafes and restaurants open
- no house arrest for the population
- no furlough scheme

Where's your data about Swedish care homes?

Sweden spend less per capita on Healthcare than Switzerland, overwhelming was not about spend per capita but number of beds.

Neil Ferguson's Imperial College model says Sweden should have over 40,000 deaths and 300,000 hospitalised by now - it doesn't. Because the model was complete and utter bullshit.


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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2020, 01:51:32 PM »

Korea is the ideal model, no lockdown just social distancing, strict controls on people entering the country and tracing contacts.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2020, 02:03:08 PM »

The truth and Breitbart in the same sentence  souey they are notorious for spreading falsehoods and publishing deliberately misleading articles. Its their OM, don't even think they try and deny it anymore 
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2020, 02:07:45 PM »

I'm mainly in agreement with your sentiments on this subject Bob but Das Bild is the German equivalent of The Sun or Daily Star. I lived there five years and that particular publication is not serious media.

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2020, 02:09:48 PM »

i'll only believe it when i see a bitchute video
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2020, 02:27:15 PM »

The truth and Breitbart in the same sentence  souey they are notorious for spreading falsehoods and publishing deliberately misleading articles. Its their OM, don't even think they try and deny it anymore 

Are you suggesting Das Build didn't publish those stories?
Are you suggesting the quoted epidemiologists didn't make those quotes?

No, you're just spreading poisonous shit with no value at all.
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2020, 02:28:03 PM »

i'll only believe it when i see a shitchute video

Jesus.

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2020, 02:28:22 PM »

I'm mainly in agreement with your sentiments on this subject Bob but Das Bild is the German equivalent of The Sun or Daily Star. I lived there five years and that particular publication is not serious media.

I don't disagree Steve but imagine The Sun running stories on why lockdown is wrong....
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2020, 02:31:11 PM »

i'll only believe it when i see a bitchute video

Or when Dereck Acorah pipes up with a political message from some dead relative

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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2020, 02:43:08 PM »

Fucking hell, which one has died now, OddCunt?!  lost lost :meltdown:
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2020, 02:49:10 PM »

i'll only believe it when i see a bitchute video

Or when Dereck Acorah pipes up with a political message from some dead relative

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2020, 05:08:12 PM »

The truth and Breitbart in the same sentence  souey they are notorious for spreading falsehoods and publishing deliberately misleading articles. Its their OM, don't even think they try and deny it anymore 

Are you suggesting Das Build didn't publish those stories?
Are you suggesting the quoted epidemiologists didn't make those quotes?

No, you're just spreading poisonous shit with no value at all.


Can you post a link to the Bild article rather that breitbarts portray of it so i can read. Although we know what Bilt is, so likelihood is it will be a sensationalist opinion piece.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2020, 05:10:02 PM »

I'm mainly in agreement with your sentiments on this subject Bob but Das Bild is the German equivalent of The Sun or Daily Star. I lived there five years and that particular publication is not serious media.

I don't disagree Steve but imagine The Sun running stories on why lockdown is wrong....


The mail on sunday has ran Peter Hitchens articles saying that for the last 5 weeks. Ive read them with interest, i might even think hes right
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2020, 05:32:02 PM »

I had Corona virus when I was off at Christmas .. I was shaking and sweating like  :matty: when he see's me log in here wondering where the fuck me winnings are the narrow backed shit slice , Anyway that lasted bout 4 days / Nights . No 1 got it a bit worse same as above with projectile vomiting . it's naughty but u gotta be already proper fucked for it to kill yer.

Probably been designed to target the frail and weaklings you better seal yourself away for good bumcat yer skinny sack of piss 
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2020, 05:56:09 PM »

If you’d had it, you’d defo be 6 feet under by now you fat sack of shit  :nige:
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2020, 05:57:27 PM »

There is so much bullshit about the virus that I am amazed theres not been more critical articles on it, not the BBC PPE shite, but serious analysis.

Sweden has proved that the lockdown could have been managed differently. Not buying the superior human beings line etc.

I also think it was here well before the reported dates.

Said if before and I'll say it again, the credibility of mathematical models, acaedimia and the reputation of organisations like WHO have been battered.

It seemed herd immunity works ...
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2020, 05:59:38 PM »

One of the first ones to catch it in the north east fuck face  

Caught the proper version straight off a split link at graft .. he had just come back from Wuhan ... I fucking smashed it  
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2020, 06:22:23 PM »

The truth and Breitbart in the same sentence  souey they are notorious for spreading falsehoods and publishing deliberately misleading articles. Its their OM, don't even think they try and deny it anymore 

Are you suggesting Das Build didn't publish those stories?
Are you suggesting the quoted epidemiologists didn't make those quotes?

No, you're just spreading poisonous shit with no value at all.


Can you post a link to the Bild article rather that breitbarts portray of it so i can read. Although we know what Bilt is, so likelihood is it will be a sensationalist opinion piece.

The article was linked in the Breitbart post.

https://m.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/inland/politik-inland/lockdown-war-ein-riesen-fehler-wissenschaftler-kritisieren-corona-massnahmen-70517342,view=conversionToLogin.bildMobile.html###wt_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fhealth%2F2020%2F05%2F11%2Fgermanys-das-bild-says-lockdown-was-a-huge-mistake%2F&wt_t=1589304097799
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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2020, 07:29:46 PM »

If you’d had it, you’d defo be 6 feet under by now you fat sack of shit  :nige:



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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2020, 11:27:10 AM »

Europe's biggest selling newspaper now says lockdown was a huge mistake with the politicians favoring a small number of WHO and therefore Bill Gates funded scientists.

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/05/11/germanys-das-bild-says-lockdown-was-a-huge-mistake/

Sweden is conclusive proof lockdown was a piss poor strategy, it saved no lives and protected nothing.
Aye Sweden nailed it' apart from having the highest death rate in the World.
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