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« on: January 10, 2020, 11:57:43 PM »

is this the most flagrant piece of outlandish electioneering or does Ben Houchen have some secret wonder method of making and selling profitable steel that SSI, Corus and Tata don't know about?
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2020, 12:06:57 AM »

Itís complete nonsense of course, there has been talk of some form of electric arc furnace for quite a while, but heís releasing statements making it sound as if heís going to reopen the steel works, and when people ask him he doesnít answer.

My guess would be a very small scale scrap recycling arc furnace with about 50 jobs, and it will be fuck all to do with Ben Houchen getting re-elected, if a private company is going to do it, they will do it whoever the Mayor is.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2020, 12:16:33 AM »

You're not bitter are you both?

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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2020, 12:22:26 AM »

Bitter about the steelworks closing? 100% I am, I had a lot of friends who lost good jobs when it went under.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2020, 09:12:55 AM »

You're not bitter are you both?

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When i hear politicians say stuff, I'm  generally cynical and like to ask "what does that mean exactly? How woud that work then?"

So when i hear an election campaigning politician saying that he will reintroduce an industry to the region if he wins the election I'm curious as to what he means and how would he do it. I'm puzzled as to how when global steelmaking companies who actually had all the resources and assets in place to make steel on Teesside elected to shut those assets down yet Ben Houchen can promise us that he can make a success of it starting from scratch?

Seems a bit fanciful?
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2020, 09:47:03 AM »

Buying the land back from the Thai banks is a good start. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2020, 09:56:31 AM »

Don't you just love the sound of squealing socialists as jobs and opportunities are brought back to the area.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2020, 10:06:40 AM »

Itís impossible. The furnace and coke ovens would need replacing for a start. He said he would have saved so ssi he had been mayor at the time, I asked him how and got ignored.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2020, 10:17:45 AM »

IT'S GONE FOR GOOD  👍

GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON  👍
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2020, 10:21:11 AM »

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It will take millions just to clean and reclaim the land. Itís costing millions of tax payers money a year now to maintain it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2020, 10:23:17 AM »

It said on Talksport news yesterday they'd secured £71m of government investment and it would create 4000 jobs.

Evil Tory bastards, getting folk off welfare 
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2020, 10:23:55 AM »

Don't you just love the sound of squealing socialists as jobs and opportunities are brought back to the area.

By asking for clarification of a very bold statement is squealing? Okay then Bob.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2020, 10:24:28 AM »

One of Trumpís top pledges was to re-open steel mills.

If youíre not bitter about the closure of the steel then youíre not a Teessider
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2020, 10:26:49 AM »

Don't you just love the sound of squealing socialists as jobs and opportunities are brought back to the area.

By asking for clarification of a very bold statement is squealing? Okay then Bob.

By doing anything you can to tarnish great news for the area. Just sit back and watch what a difference having MPs who believe in creating work and opportunities makes, as opposed to Labour CLOWNS who believe in welfare dependency.
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2020, 10:30:16 AM »

They obviously prefer their leaders to live in France and only pop up to defend the snouts in the expenses trough.
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2020, 10:30:50 AM »

You didnít even know who was in charge when it was shut.  souey
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2020, 10:33:37 AM »

Hardly doing anything to tarnish anything, Ben Houchen has been asked directly how he will bring steelmaking back and is refusing to answer, if this was the other way round you would be shouting about magic money trees  and fairy tales.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2020, 10:35:18 AM »

Theyíve been told itís impossible so attack labour :basil:
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2020, 10:38:40 AM »

whoosh ....
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2020, 10:38:45 AM »

They obviously prefer their leaders to live in France and only pop up to defend the snouts in the expenses trough.

You're not wrong.

They want to north to be impoverished, like back in Labours heyday, they want the majority of people dependent on benefits and those who do work to be employed by the state.

This is how they control the masses.

Employment, opportunity and freedom are the antithesis of the core Corbyn Labour philosophy.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2020, 10:40:41 AM »

Theyíve been told itís impossible so attack labour :basil:

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/71m-cash-injection-ssi-site-17540477

Socialist of this board  cry cry cry cry
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2020, 10:44:31 AM »

That £71m wonít even clear the land, they were told it would take hundreds of millions to decontaminate the land and the Tory minister at the time said live on tv they would pick up the full cost, they have now been drip feeding that money since 2015 and claiming it as a success every time the government throws us some scraps of the hundreds of millions which was already promised.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2020, 10:45:02 AM »

Where does that say steel making is coming back souey
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2020, 10:47:11 AM »

You know Iím sure this gobshite is nottsmog, the same angry shit, the same know all persona and the same right wing hysteria
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2020, 10:48:52 AM »

Where does that say steel making is coming back souey

It's not just about steel making, it that comes back it's a bonus. It's about creating jobs and opportunities.

JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS

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WELFARE WELFARE WELFARE WELFARE

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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2020, 10:52:58 AM »

Well this thread is about bringing back steelmaking fella.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2020, 10:53:06 AM »

Read the thread title ffs. They are spending that a year now, tax payers money on keeping it safe. Over 70 people work there on good money, one of which comes round my house and tells me whatís going on. The money isnít even guaranteed it comes with catches.
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2020, 10:56:55 AM »

To use the compulsory purchase order approach to release the land for redevelopment is a good start as said above - obviously this will be a long messy negotiation. Then the land can be cleaned and redeveloped which will take years.

Anyone with a business brain can see the pragmatism of this approach. You cannot redevelop land if you don't own it.

Socialists prefer soundbites and platitudes.

Because they're Tories ...    
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2020, 10:59:02 AM »

To use the compulsory purchase order approach to release the land for redevelopment is a good start as said above - obviously this will be a long messy negotiation. Then the land can be cleaned and redeveloped which will take years.

Anyone with a business brain can see the pragmatism of this approach. You cannot redevelop land if you don't own it.

Socialists prefer soundbites and platitudes.

Because they're Tories ...    

Exactamundo!

Like I said, socialists collectively  cry cry cry
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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2020, 11:01:25 AM »

Read the thread title you pair of clowns souey
I expect it from notts but not from a self ade man that Iím insanely jealous of :alf:
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2020, 11:02:05 AM »

Read the thread title you pair of clowns souey
I expect it from notts but not from a self ade man that Iím insanely jealous of :alf:

 cry cry cry
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2020, 11:04:21 AM »

Donít cry, just admit youíre wrong and acting hysterically again.
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2020, 11:05:50 AM »

Willie is another know it all, what comes out of that big stack over Billingham?
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2020, 11:14:48 AM »

It will take years to redevelop the land once purchased and by that time with investment and knowledge from the likes of MPI, academia etc etc new sustainable technologies can be created. Some technology developments are at an advanced stage.  But obviously some shit kicker who goes in the Woodys knows a lot more.  :alf:

The Lucite stack at Billingham - is that the one on the plant where operations staff need to shower on entry and departure, and a wear a green suit? That one?
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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2020, 11:21:37 AM »

So is steel making coming back willie?
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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2020, 11:26:21 AM »

It certainly won't come back without taking proactive steps now. There might be better materials in the future to replace steel 
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« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2020, 11:36:09 AM »

It certainly won't come back without taking proactive steps now. There might be better materials in the future to replace steel 

Excellent whataboutery there willie.
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2020, 11:42:37 AM »


The Lucite stack at Billingham - is that the one on the plant where operations staff need to shower on entry and departure, and a wear a green suit? That one?

You tell me...
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The Lucite stack at Billingham - is that the one on the plant where operations staff need to shower on entry and departure, and a wear a green suit? That one?

You tell me...

Don't know which one you are referring to daft lad - try harder ... there's lots of stacks in the Billingham area
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« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2020, 11:54:25 AM »

So is steel making coming back willie?

Are jobs coming back?

*crickets*

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The Lucite stack at Billingham - is that the one on the plant where operations staff need to shower on entry and departure, and a wear a green suit? That one?

You tell me...

Don't know which one you are referring to daft lad - try harder ... there's lots of stacks in the Billingham area

The biggest one at Lucite?
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« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2020, 12:03:31 PM »

So is steel making coming back willie?

Are jobs coming back?

*crickets*



I donít know, unlike you who knows absolutely everything but canít answer a question.
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« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2020, 12:09:23 PM »


The Lucite stack at Billingham - is that the one on the plant where operations staff need to shower on entry and departure, and a wear a green suit? That one?

You tell me...

Don't know which one you are referring to daft lad - try harder ... there's lots of stacks in the Billingham area

The biggest one at Lucite?

You tell me, you brought the subject up. I thought we were talking about something else?
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« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2020, 12:14:23 PM »

So you donít know?
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« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2020, 12:15:31 PM »

Don't know what?
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« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2020, 12:21:23 PM »

What that big stack at lucite is for?
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« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2020, 12:22:38 PM »

What that big stack at lucite is for?

Big stack at Lucite? You mean the tall one not necessarily the big one?
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« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2020, 12:30:45 PM »

Itís got fuck all to do with steel anyway :basil:
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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2020, 12:45:29 PM »

What that big stack at lucite is for?

Big stack at Lucite? You mean the tall one not necessarily the big one?

You donít know then.
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« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2020, 12:54:18 PM »

What that big stack at lucite is for?
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Its to do with the acid cleaning part of the site. Making mma that you make perspex out of generates more dirty sulphuric acid than the amount of mma they make. They clean and regenerate it these days thankfully, used to just dump the dirty acid into the river or sea til definitely the 70s and probably into the 80s. The acid plant is way bigger than than the plant to make mma.
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