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« on: February 13, 2018, 04:38:04 AM »

Reading this thread and just dont understand the massive hate on the USA.

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I bet 99% of the fuckers sticking their awe in have never lived in the USA.  95% have never even been to the USA.

Its just fashionable to hate on the place.

I can think of far worse countries I would rather live. 

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 04:43:41 AM »

There is good and bad everywhere.

I don't regret moving here but recognize there are shitty things about the place.  But then I think I would make the best of anywhere I lived.  I miss things about home and would move back and be happy too.

They really are a bunch of know-it-all self righteous dopey cunts on there. 

I bet you are right - they've likely never been anywhere and never done owt except fucking moan.  Fuck 'em.



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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 04:46:06 AM »

In Britain, we are constantly bombarded with American 'culture', films, music, tv programmes, literature etc so we have a much more symbiotic relationship with the US than other countries. We are linked to the US by proxy, as our constant 'allies' in misguided wars and speakers of a common language. How many discussions on here are a product of American alt-right thinking, how many times is the Donald discussed? If people in the UK have comments to make on the US, negative or positive it is hardly suprising. We don't have that level of interraction with any other countries, so the US comes in for more criticism than any other countries by British people
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 04:54:09 AM »

I like America and its people

It's a crazy as fuck place and the people are equally crazy, but they're also friendly and very family orientated which appeals to me
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 05:51:19 AM »

"American alt-right thinking"
A phrase used almost exclusively by Grauniad-reading pseuds
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 06:00:10 AM »

Quelle surprise
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 08:44:40 AM »

The media really have done a job on Trump(and still are). It must be in their contracts to mention him in a bad way at the beginning of everything they broadcast and our snowflakes lap it up in between Pokemon hunting.

All while that antifa sponsoring Nazi collaborator and the murdering Clintons get lauded. Strange world.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 08:46:45 AM »

Great place America, love my visits there. It has it's problems like every other country, and is very diversified. America won't take shit from anyone, that's why folk leaning to the left have a problem with it. I look forward to my next trip there.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2018, 08:57:07 AM »

Their level of hatred and contempt of everything USA pales into insignificance compared to countries that goes against just about left wing principle such as:

- extreme sexual discrimination against women
- injustice for immigrants,
- capital punishment, public executions with a corrupt judicial system
- human rights abuses,
- blatant exploitation of the poor and slave labour
- Incredibly and openly racist
- a country that redefines homophobia
- People brainwashed by a ridiculous religion
- zero freedom of speech
- zero tolerance of practising any other belief other than Islam
- Culture police preventing you wearing any other religious symbol other than Islamic ones
- Culture police stopping non-muslims talking to local women (you will be jailed)
- Where polygamy is accepted, men have numerous wives.
- You cannot criticise the Royal family
- Breeding ground and sponsors of islamic terrorism

SO WHY DON'T THEY HEAVILY CRITICISE SAUDI? PERHAPS THE SFLD's ON HERE CAN EXPLAIN?
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2018, 09:15:00 AM »

IGNORE IT  :like:

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2018, 09:56:53 AM »

Their level of hatred and contempt of everything USA pales into insignificance compared to countries that goes against just about left wing principle such as:

- extreme sexual discrimination against women
- injustice for immigrants,
- capital punishment, public executions with a corrupt judicial system
- human rights abuses,
- blatant exploitation of the poor and slave labour
- Incredibly and openly racist
- a country that redefines homophobia
- People brainwashed by a ridiculous religion
- zero freedom of speech
- zero tolerance of practising any other belief other than Islam
- Culture police preventing you wearing any other religious symbol other than Islamic ones
- Culture police stopping non-muslims talking to local women (you will be jailed)
- Where polygamy is accepted, men have numerous wives.
- You cannot criticise the Royal family
- Breeding ground and sponsors of islamic terrorism

SO WHY DON'T THEY HEAVILY CRITICISE SAUDI? PERHAPS THE SFLD's ON HERE CAN EXPLAIN?

Who enables the Saudi state to exist and basically gives them carte blanche to do what they like as  they are heavily invested in Saudi oil and Saudi money is heavily invested in their country? I don't know anyone who knows anything about Saudi Arabia that isn't highly critical of their state and theyr country's actions
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2018, 10:01:53 AM »


Be thankful for the USA. We'd all have pictures of comrade putin on our living room walls if not for them

The reason Putin is vilified in the Western press is the reason why RWNJs should be his biggest fan. He's a strongman that stands up to Islamic fundametalism, neo-liberal economics and puts his country first. Laughable when you are all so brainwashed by the mainstream media you so disdain that you can't see it.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 10:08:28 AM »


Be thankful for the USA. We'd all have pictures of comrade putin on our living room walls if not for them

The reason Putin is vilified in the Western press is the reason why RWNJs should be his biggest fan. He's a strongman that stands up to Islamic fundametalism, neo-liberal economics and puts his country first. Laughable when you are all so brainwashed by the mainstream media you so disdain that you can't see it.

is he vilified in the western press? there used to be a bit of mockery regarding his macho man persona but not much else.  I really dont see much putin hate from the right at all

anyway, my comment was an attempt to convey that the russian tanks wouldve rolled over western europe way back in the 50's and 60's if the yanks hadnt stood right in their path

mind you, some of the left wing daft cunts would love nothing better than to live in a stalinist "utopia"

clueless cunts

Yes he is villified in the Western press. Absolutely. The tanks would have had to have been amphibious to roll over the UK  mcl
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2018, 10:23:27 AM »

How about Hitler then?
If it wasn't for the USA we would now be German.
I think we owe them a debt of gratitude.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2018, 10:26:57 AM »

How about Hitler then?
If it wasn't for the USA we would now be German.
I think we owe them a debt of gratitude.

Looking at the way Europe is heading, I'm beginning to wish we was 
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2018, 10:29:30 AM »

Some of the most amazing places and people I have ever had the fortune to encounter. Also some of the biggest shitholes and arseholes.

Generally I find them a little loud for my tastes, but it is a wonderful country for the most part.
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2018, 10:31:01 AM »

How about Hitler then?
If it wasn't for the USA we would now be German.
I think we owe them a debt of gratitude.

Looking at the way Europe is heading, I'm beginning to wish we was 

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2018, 10:31:23 AM »

The USA has a lot of positive and negatives but does not deserve the abuse it receives from our democrats.

Positives; allies in various wars, cross fertilisation of entertainment, music influence, job opportunities for our youngsters, IT developments, some great TV/films

Negatives: a lot of extreme pricks live there,  insincerity is rife, dominated by money, cheesy, shit food, shit airlines, fat people, cunts at immigration who look like Harry Potter acting hard.

 
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 10:33:51 AM »

Negatives: Lend Lease
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2018, 10:36:00 AM »

I have no love for Trump, but he sends the SFLDs tiny brains into meltdown, so he can't be all bad :like:
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2018, 11:03:07 AM »

Trump was busy wiping Taliban training camps off the face of the Earth last week' with his "mother of all bombs" shame on him. oleary
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2018, 11:11:39 AM »

How about Hitler then?
If it wasn't for the USA we would now be German.
I think we owe them a debt of gratitude.

Looking at the way Europe is heading, I'm beginning to wish we was 

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2018, 11:16:23 AM »

I don't hate American people, but I do hate Trump and everything he stands for.  As do many Americans.

What Trump does affects us all, whether it is in the Middle East or his economic policies, it bounces around the world.

He is determined to enrich himself and fellow billionaires while at the same time denying health care to even more poor and middle class people than are entitled to that basic need presently.

The world under Trump will be less safe and more unequal.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2018, 11:29:20 AM »

The same as anywhere else in the world, there are good and bad people in the USA.

To generalise they are insular and ignorant of much of what goes on outside the USA.

The 'rest of the world' are looking on them with derision more and more, mostly because of Trump.
His popularity in the USA comes from their ignorance and selfishness.

They are becoming more and more isolated as a consequence.

Fracking came at just the right time for them. Without that their economy would be in nosedive.

Love holidaying over there, fantastic. But any that I've worked with in the O&G business have been cocks... to a man.

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2018, 11:35:25 AM »

The same as anywhere else in the world, there are good and bad people in the USA.

To generalise they are insular and ignorant of much of what goes on outside the USA.

The 'rest of the world' are looking on them with derision more and more, mostly because of Trump.
His popularity in the USA comes from their ignorance and selfishness.

They are becoming more and more isolated as a consequence.

Fracking came at just the right time for them. Without that their economy would be in nosedive.

Love holidaying over there, fantastic. But any that I've worked with in the O&G business have been cocks... to a man.



Lol, do you have any idea how funny that is coming from you of all people 
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2018, 11:48:08 AM »

Their level of hatred and contempt of everything USA pales into insignificance compared to countries that goes against just about left wing principle such as:

- extreme sexual discrimination against women
- injustice for immigrants,
- capital punishment, public executions with a corrupt judicial system
- human rights abuses,
- blatant exploitation of the poor and slave labour
- Incredibly and openly racist
- a country that redefines homophobia
- People brainwashed by a ridiculous religion
- zero freedom of speech
- zero tolerance of practising any other belief other than Islam
- Culture police preventing you wearing any other religious symbol other than Islamic ones
- Culture police stopping non-muslims talking to local women (you will be jailed)
- Where polygamy is accepted, men have numerous wives.
- You cannot criticise the Royal family
- Breeding ground and sponsors of islamic terrorism

SO WHY DON'T THEY HEAVILY CRITICISE SAUDI? PERHAPS THE SFLD's ON HERE CAN EXPLAIN?

Who enables the Saudi state to exist and basically gives them carte blanche to do what they like as  they are heavily invested in Saudi oil and Saudi money is heavily invested in their country? I don't know anyone who knows anything about Saudi Arabia that isn't highly critical of their state and theyr country's actions

Who? USA, British, Germans, French, Italy, etc not just the US!

That's my point, the SFLD's over the road and in our PC riddled society seem to overlook this point and direct all their vitriol at Trumpism. That's my question, why because it is so fucking apparent. I can answer it if you're struggling.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2018, 11:56:59 AM »



Wow, that's a great point. You'll never see the any Europeans stoop so low as to fraternise with, lobby and bribe such people to win big deals. You got me there like  charles   
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2018, 12:00:03 PM »

That's the point, the west has allowed Saudi to call the shots in the middle east.


Britain and America in particular.
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2018, 12:08:18 PM »

My point has not been answered so will ask it again. Why is there a disproportionate level of vitriol from the liberals aimed at the likes of Trump The USA etc. as opposed to those running a Stone-Age Islamic regime?
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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2018, 12:21:07 PM »

Because America has a much bigger impact on the world in economic terms?

Also American media and news, entertainment and so on occupies much of our own entertainment hours.

We are close to America through history.  America matters.
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2018, 12:29:49 PM »

My point has not been answered so will ask it again. Why is there a disproportionate level of vitriol from the liberals aimed at the likes of Trump The USA etc. as opposed to those running a Stone-Age Islamic regime?

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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2018, 12:49:36 PM »

Simple people see the world in a simplistic, black and white way. There's good and evil and nothing in between with them, of course being on the side of the angels. It's how the not very bright are manipulated. So if you buy in to one bit of lefty ideology, you have to buy into all of it, and a big part of that is that everything is America's fault.
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2018, 12:51:42 PM »

The USA has a lot of positive and negatives but does not deserve the abuse it receives from our democrats.

Positives; allies in various wars, cross fertilisation of entertainment, music influence, job opportunities for our youngsters, IT developments, some great TV/films

Negatives: a lot of extreme pricks live there,  insincerity is rife, dominated by money, cheesy, shit food, shit airlines, fat people, cunts at immigration who look like Harry Potter acting hard.

 


From the time I’ve spent there, this sums up the majority of yanks most accurately
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2018, 02:47:50 PM »

The USA has a lot of positive and negatives but does not deserve the abuse it receives from our democrats.

Positives; allies in various wars, cross fertilisation of entertainment, music influence, job opportunities for our youngsters, IT developments, some great TV/films

Negatives: a lot of extreme pricks live there,  insincerity is rife, dominated by money, cheesy, shit food, shit airlines, fat people, cunts at immigration who look like Harry Potter acting hard.

 

Shit food? 

Obviously you have never tried Creole and Cajun cooking.  Nothing like that shite Cajun Chicken they serve up in the UK. 🤣

Seafood in the Florida Keys is absolutely the dogs bollocks.

Now you only are at chain restaurants in Disney or New York then I understand.

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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2018, 03:05:38 PM »

Ste
I am a complete food snob and love some of the more niche and upmarket areas of US cuisine such as Cajun, filet, seafood etc I've spent a lot of time in the southern states. And when on business you are compelled to eat as the locals do. In such cases it is chains, chains, chains. Fucking hate them. Then you just start eating like an addict and walk out with what feels like having a subway up your arse all day.

When in Florida with the family there was literally one non chain restaurant in the Orlando area which was pricy but decent.
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2018, 03:32:52 PM »

Ste
I am a complete food snob and love some of the more niche and upmarket areas of US cuisine such as Cajun, filet, seafood etc I've spent a lot of time in the southern states. And when on business you are compelled to eat as the locals do. In such cases it is chains, chains, chains. Fucking hate them. Then you just start eating like an addict and walk out with what feels like having a subway up your arse all day.

When in Florida with the family there was literally one non chain restaurant in the Orlando area which was pricy but decent.

Try San Francisco next time.

Great food.

And sincere bumming for Matty.
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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2018, 03:44:32 PM »

Ste
I am a complete food snob and love some of the more niche and upmarket areas of US cuisine such as Cajun, filet, seafood etc I've spent a lot of time in the southern states. And when on business you are compelled to eat as the locals do. In such cases it is chains, chains, chains. Fucking hate them. Then you just start eating like an addict and walk out with what feels like having a subway up your arse all day.

When in Florida with the family there was literally one non chain restaurant in the Orlando area which was pricy but decent.

Try San Francisco next time.

Great food.

And sincere bumming for Matty.


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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2018, 03:48:23 PM »

'a little loud'?
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2018, 03:55:10 PM »

My point has not been answered so will ask it again. Why is there a disproportionate level of vitriol from the liberals aimed at the likes of Trump The USA etc. as opposed to those running a Stone-Age Islamic regime?

Am I a liberal? Anyway I'll answer your question, because the USA likes to trumpet themselves as the leaders of the free world and the bringers, like it or not, of 'democracy'. They're not, they're a gangster state that enables, on a grand scale economic enslavement and the propagation of systematic thievery and decimation of anyone against 'them'.

The Saudi state on the other hand is indeed a corrupt savage theocracy/ despotism, ran for the benefit of their so called king and his numerous, heavily inbred offspring, pumping money into numerous terrorist (whatever that means anymore) organizations to back up their sick twisted world view

Your tedious straw-man constructions belie your lack of intellect
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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2018, 04:15:45 PM »

Compare the difference between Mayfair and Grangetown. Then Imagine America is 100 times the size of the uk, (I don't know that is accurate, it's just a random number but they have states much bigger than the uk). You have some of the coldest places on earth to some of the hottest. So to label an entire country as this or that is a bit silly.

Culturally it is as diverse as an entire continent. I'd love to have the time to tour the entire place to understand it by holidays are at a premium so I#'ll wait until I retire before I start spending time in the mid west.
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Compare the difference between Mayfair and Grangetown. Then Imagine America is 100 times the size of the uk, (I don't know that is accurate, it's just a random number but they have states much bigger than the uk). You have some of the coldest places on earth to some of the hottest. So to label an entire country as this or that is a bit silly.

Culturally it is as diverse as an entire continent. I'd love to have the time to tour the entire place to understand it by holidays are at a premium so I#'ll wait until I retire before I start spending time in the mid west.
You'll be flogging stair lifts till your brown bread son.
You'll be touring james cook not the USA
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2018, 04:23:10 PM »

How about Hitler then?
If it wasn't for the USA we would now be German.
I think we owe them a debt of gratitude.

Looking at the way Europe is heading, I'm beginning to wish we was 

were

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Chavboy - Would you like me to come over and quote your mother? Just be aware there is a 20 stone limit on them and judging by how unhappy and obsessive you are, you're a family of porkers. Sure they'll let you pay 50p a week from your jsa.
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« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2018, 04:25:40 PM »

My point has not been answered so will ask it again. Why is there a disproportionate level of vitriol from the liberals aimed at the likes of Trump The USA etc. as opposed to those running a Stone-Age Islamic regime?

Am I a liberal? Anyway I'll answer your question, because the USA likes to trumpet themselves as the leaders of the free world and the bringers, like it or not, of 'democracy'. They're not, they're a gangster state that enables, on a grand scale economic enslavement and the propagation of systematic thievery and decimation of anyone against 'them'.

The Saudi state on the other hand is indeed a corrupt savage theocracy/ despotism, ran for the benefit of their so called king and his numerous, heavily inbred offspring, pumping money into numerous terrorist (whatever that means anymore) organizations to back up their sick twisted world view

Your tedious straw-man constructions belie you lack of intellect

yes, you are fucking liberal :tp4:

and i've reported you so you're not allowed to go to america anymore

I wasn't talking to you, you daft cunt  mcl
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« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2018, 04:29:02 PM »

How about Hitler then?
If it wasn't for the USA we would now be German.
I think we owe them a debt of gratitude.

Looking at the way Europe is heading, I'm beginning to wish we was 

were

Verpiss dich!

Es ist vielleicht dreiunddreißig Jahre da ich Deutsch in der Schule gelernt, also habe ich viel vergessen, aber ich weiß, dass du eine Fotze bist.

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« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2018, 05:03:19 PM »

Nur was ich von dir gelernt.
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« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2018, 05:51:23 PM »

Nur was ich von dir gelernt.
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« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2018, 08:30:23 PM »

My point has not been answered so will ask it again. Why is there a disproportionate level of vitriol from the liberals aimed at the likes of Trump The USA etc. as opposed to those running a Stone-Age Islamic regime?

Am I a liberal? Anyway I'll answer your question, because the USA likes to trumpet themselves as the leaders of the free world and the bringers, like it or not, of 'democracy'. They're not, they're a gangster state that enables, on a grand scale economic enslavement and the propagation of systematic thievery and decimation of anyone against 'them'.

The Saudi state on the other hand is indeed a corrupt savage theocracy/ despotism, ran for the benefit of their so called king and his numerous, heavily inbred offspring, pumping money into numerous terrorist (whatever that means anymore) organizations to back up their sick twisted world view

Your tedious straw-man constructions belie your lack of intellect

It’s not a straw man argument. It is simply to highlight the contrast of the vitriol of liberals like you between regimes like Saudi and the USA in context with the OP when obviously you would chose to live in the capitalist world of the USA than the despotic cesspit called Saudi. Just highlighting the hypocritical convenient blind spot your ilk have when it comes to slagging off a nation and culture. It is a well recognised blind spot. When cornered why do liberals accuse those with an opposing view as lacking intelligence. Silly boy.
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« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2018, 08:39:03 PM »

My point has not been answered so will ask it again. Why is there a disproportionate level of vitriol from the liberals aimed at the likes of Trump The USA etc. as opposed to those running a Stone-Age Islamic regime?

Am I a liberal? Anyway I'll answer your question, because the USA likes to trumpet themselves as the leaders of the free world and the bringers, like it or not, of 'democracy'. They're not, they're a gangster state that enables, on a grand scale economic enslavement and the propagation of systematic thievery and decimation of anyone against 'them'.

The Saudi state on the other hand is indeed a corrupt savage theocracy/ despotism, ran for the benefit of their so called king and his numerous, heavily inbred offspring, pumping money into numerous terrorist (whatever that means anymore) organizations to back up their sick twisted world view

Your tedious straw-man constructions belie your lack of intellect

It’s not a straw man argument. It is simply to highlight the contrast of the vitriol of liberals like you between regimes like Saudi and the USA in context with the OP when obviously you would chose to live in the capitalist world of the USA than the despotic cesspit called Saudi. Just highlighting the hypocritical convenient blind spot your ilk have when it comes to slagging off a nation and culture. It is a well recognised blind spot. When cornered why do liberals accuse those with an opposing view as lacking intelligence. Silly boy.

What? That was a long winded way of repeating yourself, you dullard
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