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« on: June 18, 2017, 08:45:10 AM »

That mention James Wharton was Housing minister before Gavin Barwell and that now it is looking like it wa he that met with fire regulators and the brass from the fire brigade before the reports and recommendations were kicked into the long grass.

I'm no fan of Wharton but I don't seem to remember him as housing minister. And also, no records seem to suggest he was?

Why are the media putting this out there? Is it coming from Tory HQ? Is it a case of blame the last guy who had left?
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2017, 08:48:56 AM »

Do you ever post anything but politics?

Why spam the board with it?

What do you hope to achieve by politicising the board

Are there not anymore suitable online forums for such issues

Fuck off
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2017, 09:39:41 AM »

Should ban ignorant foul mouth cunts like BF.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2017, 09:41:04 AM »

Fuck off with dull politics. Specially Rids.

Tedious old man. oleary
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2017, 09:59:54 AM »

Well there is no Boro news.Getting back to Wharton.I believe he was Local Govt and Communities  junior minister.They will be having him under oath before the Enquiry.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2017, 10:03:02 AM »

So no boro news defaults to political debate?

Yawn

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2017, 10:12:15 AM »

When was the cladding changed? Chances are it's people long gone who are responsible
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2017, 10:16:18 AM »

 I HAVE SEEN 3  mcl












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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2017, 01:56:58 PM »

Well there is no Boro news.Getting back to Wharton.I believe he was Local Govt and Communities  junior minister.They will be having him under oath before the Enquiry.

They're reporting him as ex housing minister. Fall guy for May's new side kick?
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2017, 01:58:33 PM »

When was the cladding changed? Chances are it's people long gone who are responsible

They're saying the cladding is illegal now.

It just feels like everyone i getting their stories straight and finding the best fall guys.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2017, 02:00:18 PM »

It's certainly illegal in many other countries
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2017, 02:05:29 PM »

It's certainly illegal in many other countries

In the UK too.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2017, 03:17:59 PM »

When was the cladding changed? Chances are it's people long gone who are responsible


I think only last year.
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2017, 03:36:35 PM »

It's certainly illegal in many other countries

In the UK too.

Yeah just reading up now. Anything over 10m apparently.


People need locking up for this. And it needs to be the right people. Not some sacrificial lambs
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2017, 04:44:15 PM »

It's certainly illegal in many other countries

In the UK too.

Yeah just reading up now. Anything over 10m apparently.


People need locking up for this. And it needs to be the right people. Not some sacrificial lambs

I hope so. However, the system is good at protecting the real culprits.

This is why I'm finding it strange that Wharton's name is being banded about.
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2017, 05:27:30 PM »

Wasn't Grenfell Tower built during Ted Heath's watch? So lets dig him up and hang him.

And we can blame all other rich Tory toffs for that forest fire in Portugal too.

Anything to appease crackpot Lefties and free-loading immigrants will do.  :like:
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2017, 05:31:53 PM »

Wasn't Grenfell Tower built during Ted Heath's watch? So lets dig him up and hang him.

And we can blame all other rich Tory toffs for that forest fire in Portugal too.

Anything to appease crackpot Lefties and free-loading immigrants will do.  :like:

The left are a crazy bunch for not just accepting death and dangerous living conditions for a great many people.

Can't they just get back in their boxes? They've never had it so good...
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2017, 06:35:28 PM »

The left are total fucking hypocrites here again!

The same loons who spread the names of two directors of one of the companies involved are not pissing their knickers because the Sun named the taxi driver who started the fire

Bunch of cunts.

It was a human tradgedy and the usual suspects are out to score political points
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2017, 06:38:37 PM »

It's certainly illegal in many other countries

In the UK too.

Yeah just reading up now. Anything over 10m apparently.


People need locking up for this. And it needs to be the right people. Not some sacrificial lambs

I hope so. However, the system is good at protecting the real culprits.

This is why I'm finding it strange that Wharton's name is being banded about.

By who exactly? Your own mates?
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2017, 06:40:27 PM »

Fires happen flar. Measures should be in place to prevent them spreading.

If that's not the case, why would tower blocks still exist
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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2017, 06:44:48 PM »

Fires happen flar. Measures should be in place to prevent them spreading.

If that's not the case, why would tower blocks still exist

Says Mr "hit the boiler with a hammer"  :matty:
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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2017, 06:45:51 PM »

Grown ups talking.
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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2017, 06:48:02 PM »

Grown ups talking.

Since when did men with cats count a proper grown ups?  :matty:
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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2017, 07:29:07 PM »

It's certainly illegal in many other countries

In the UK too.

Yeah just reading up now. Anything over 10m apparently.


People need locking up for this. And it needs to be the right people. Not some sacrificial lambs

I hope so. However, the system is good at protecting the real culprits.

This is why I'm finding it strange that Wharton's name is being banded about.

By who exactly? Your own mates?


Mainstream media outlets.
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2017, 08:40:03 PM »

Interesting. Post them up so we can have a read.
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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2017, 09:01:31 PM »

I've seen it in three places now. They were all posts written by Kevlar.
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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2017, 09:06:07 PM »

Fires do happen, but they do not spread like that one did.


It's not normal, the installation of completely the wrong material has lead to a disaster. Someone has to answerffor this.
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2017, 12:11:13 AM »

Interesting. Post them up so we can have a read.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/17/tower-block-fire-warnings-grenfell-victims

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-mays-chief-staff-sat-10620357.amp

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/grenfell-tower-fire-latest-chief-fire-office-ronnie-king-government-ignore-warnings-gavin-barwell-a7795731.html?amp

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3824764/catalogue-of-ignored-warnings-over-death-trap-grenfell-tower-revealed-as-it-emerges-a-blaze-at-block-was-contained-in-2010-before-flammable-cladding-was-installed/amp/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4614522/amp/Former-mp-s-shock-failure-update-fire-regulations.html
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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2017, 01:02:00 AM »

Fires do happen, but they do not spread like that one did.


It's not normal, the installation of completely the wrong material has lead to a disaster. Someone has to answerffor this.
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If it was blonde kids and a labour counci the racists on here would be frothing at the mouth.

Yep.  Agree.
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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2017, 06:21:32 AM »

Fires do happen, but they do not spread like that one did.


It's not normal, the installation of completely the wrong material has lead to a disaster. Someone has to answerffor this.
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If it was blonde kids and a labour counci the racists on here would be frothing at the mouth.

Lost the plot there like you old cunt

Peoples reaction would be exactly the same
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