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« on: May 23, 2017, 08:08:28 AM »

FUCKS SAKE....NO SEARCHES  souey

WHERE IS THE SNIFFER DOGS.....THE HAND HELD SCANNERS ???

MANCHESTER ALREADY BEEN HIT.....ONE BLOKE GETS PAST SECURITY WITH AN I.E.D. VEST ON  rava

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 08:09:45 AM »

Spot on  :like:
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2017, 08:20:52 AM »

Only ever been for the boxing but they have security on then presumably he noticed they stop at the end of the concert. He detonated 5 mins before it would have been far more busy so perhaps he was challenged.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 08:25:56 AM »

Seems reasonable he was challenged given the location and timing.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 09:40:55 AM »

Seems reasonable he was challenged given the location and timing.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 09:44:37 AM »

Seems reasonable he was challenged given the location and timing.
Is it possible he was waiting for the crowd outside.no search  then.]

The bomb went off in the foyer inside the building between the arena and the station next door.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 09:48:29 AM »

Seems reasonable he was challenged given the location and timing.
Is it possible he was waiting for the crowd outside.no search  then.]

The bomb went off in the foyer inside the building between the arena and the station next door.

Planning the next one Freak?  klins
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2017, 09:51:15 AM »

Classy insults in the wake of what has just happened, Craig.

Are you still going to pretend you actually care about last night?
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2017, 09:53:31 AM »

Its just a shame that it wasnt you getting blown up instead of a normal innocent decent person. Youre a fuckin weasel and a waste of.skin.

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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2017, 09:53:44 AM »

NEVER LEARNT FROM THE PARIS CONCERT  rava

ARMED POLICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON ALL ENTRANCES THROUGHOUT THE CONCERT....CHALLENGING ANYONE TRYING TO WALK IN.....NOT ENOUGH OLD BILL WITH GUNS ON DUTY  :unlike:

ONLY TAKES ONE WITH A MACHINE GUN OR BOMB TO KILL HUNDREDS  souey
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2017, 09:55:17 AM »

Seems reasonable he was challenged given the location and timing.
Is it possible he was waiting for the crowd outside.no search  then.]

The bomb went off in the foyer inside the building between the arena and the station next door.

Planning the next one Freak?  klins

FUCK OFF 

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2017, 09:55:29 AM »

I got searched three times at Wembley on Sunday to watch York City play Macclesfield!
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2017, 09:56:06 AM »

Classy insults in the wake of what has just happened, Craig.

Are you still going to pretend you actually care about last night?

Ive explained why I care.

You say nothing except insults.

But then your life is nothing.
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2017, 09:56:46 AM »

Seems reasonable he was challenged given the location and timing.
Is it possible he was waiting for the crowd outside.no search  then.]

The bomb went off in the foyer inside the building between the arena and the station next door.

Planning the next one Freak?  klins

FUCK OFF 

DAFT CUNT  :unlike:

Look up the creepy loners posts.
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2017, 09:59:22 AM »

"Planning the next one Freak?"

"Stops you making a suicide vest."

"Or top yourself."

"Critical BillIam is certainly one in the making."

"Definite suicide bomber material this one"

22 people dead in a terrorist attack and this is "caring" Craig's contribution.
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2017, 10:00:51 AM »

"Planning the next one Freak?"

"Stops you making a suicide vest."

"Or top yourself."

"Critical BillIam is certainly one in the making."

"Definite suicide bomber material this one"

22 people dead in a terrorist attack and this is "caring" Craig's contribution.

Because you are exactly that sort of material.

Meanwhile you do nothing apart from make up names.

A mad loner.

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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2017, 10:02:26 AM »

Get a grip, show some respect you pair of silly cunts
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2017, 10:03:30 AM »

Get a grip, show some respect you pair of silly cunts
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A troll  on a day like this.

When emotions are high.

Thats Billiam for you.  :wanker:
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2017, 10:04:52 AM »

I think he must have walked into the arena when it was emptying. Otherwise he could have detonated it during the concert. Less chance of being  caught.  about time these "community's "  started to get rid of the the nonces and extremists  if they want to be considered  innocent,
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2017, 10:05:31 AM »

Only one person on here telling others to kill themselves and using suicide bombers/terrorists as an insult, Craig.
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2017, 10:05:39 AM »

I think he must have walked into the arena when it was emptying. Otherwise he could have detonated it during the concert. Less chance of being  caught.  about time these "community's "  started to get rid of the the nonces and extremists  if they want to be considered  innocent,

He would have stood out a mile in a concert with 95% women.
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2017, 10:06:29 AM »

Only one person on here telling others to kill themselves and using suicide bombers/terrorists as an insult, Craig.

Just to a pathetic troll.

Who is still at it.

One that isnt showing the least concern about what happened.
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2017, 10:12:42 AM »

All you've done this morning is use this tragedy to get one over on people, which is why you dragged it into this thread when the other one was closed, Craig.
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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2017, 10:14:33 AM »

All you've done this morning is use this tragedy to get one over on people, which is why you dragged it into this thread when the other one was closed, Craig.

All you have done is troll.

Simple as that.

Not shown the slightest bit of concern.

I shall now do like everyone in the real world and ignore your existence.   :like:
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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2017, 10:16:49 AM »

Good lad Craig. Take a break.
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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2017, 10:29:09 AM »

Get a grip, show some respect you pair of silly cunts
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Fucking right on. There's folk spewing with stress looking for their kids and this is going on on a poxy message board.

 Fucking God's sake, lads.
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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2017, 10:39:31 AM »

'They' knew it was coming:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/10/suicide-bomber-targets-trafford-centre-mock-terror-attack-manchester
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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2017, 10:41:01 AM »



ARMED POLICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON ALL ENTRANCES THROUGHOUT THE CONCERT....CHALLENGING ANYONE TRYING TO WALK IN.....NOT ENOUGH OLD BILL WITH GUNS ON DUTY  :unlike:



Armed police on duty at every pop concert taking place in the UK? Don't be silly - we don't have that many coppers, let alone armed ones.

Even if we did, they would just move to another target - the nearest shopping mall or restaurant. It's impossible to stop these attacks like this. You need to stop it at source - the mosques.
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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2017, 01:07:42 PM »

The cowardly attack took place in a public concourse. Nothing you can do about such attacks other than increase the ability to gather intelligence and stop the perpetrators in their tracks. Didn't recent report get released in which the security services said they had stopped about 20 attacks over the last 5 years.
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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2017, 01:10:17 PM »

The cowardly attack took place in a public concourse. Nothing you can do about such attacks other than increase the ability to gather intelligence and stop the perpetrators in their tracks. Didn't recent report get released in which the security services said they had stopped about 20 attacks over the last 5 years.

There really needs to be more vigilance when an Asian man is wandering into a place full of white girls.  souey
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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2017, 01:16:10 PM »

The cowardly attack took place in a public concourse. Nothing you can do about such attacks other than increase the ability to gather intelligence and stop the perpetrators in their tracks. Didn't recent report get released in which the security services said they had stopped about 20 attacks over the last 5 years.

There really needs to be more vigilance when an Asian man is wandering into a place full of white girls.  souey
Was he Chinese.  :chrisk:
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2017, 01:16:55 PM »

The cowardly attack took place in a public concourse. Nothing you can do about such attacks other than increase the ability to gather intelligence and stop the perpetrators in their tracks. Didn't recent report get released in which the security services said they had stopped about 20 attacks over the last 5 years.

There really needs to be more vigilance when an Asian man is wandering into a place full of white girls.  souey

It was a public space. Maybe he detonated early because people were starting to look. Maybe he walked in and detonated immediately, maybe he was dressed in western clothes.

It's easy to condemn the security services without all the facts being available.
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2017, 01:17:48 PM »

The cowardly attack took place in a public concourse. Nothing you can do about such attacks other than increase the ability to gather intelligence and stop the perpetrators in their tracks. Didn't recent report get released in which the security services said they had stopped about 20 attacks over the last 5 years.

There really needs to be more vigilance when an Asian man is wandering into a place full of white girls.  souey
Was he Chinese.  :chrisk:

Sorry went a bit BBC PC there.  lost
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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2017, 01:20:29 PM »

The cowardly attack took place in a public concourse. Nothing you can do about such attacks other than increase the ability to gather intelligence and stop the perpetrators in their tracks. Didn't recent report get released in which the security services said they had stopped about 20 attacks over the last 5 years.

There really needs to be more vigilance when an Asian man is wandering into a place full of white girls.  souey

Get this in your fucking head. The concert was at an end. There will have been many many parents hanging round waiting for their kids

Of course, Asian parents are different. WTF are the security people supposed to do?
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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2017, 01:25:33 PM »

The cowardly attack took place in a public concourse. Nothing you can do about such attacks other than increase the ability to gather intelligence and stop the perpetrators in their tracks. Didn't recent report get released in which the security services said they had stopped about 20 attacks over the last 5 years.

There really needs to be more vigilance when an Asian man is wandering into a place full of white girls.  souey

Get this in your fucking head. The concert was at an end. There will have been many many parents hanging round waiting for their kids

Of course, Asian parents are different. WTF are the security people supposed to do?

Watch out for ones with big bulky jackets maybe?

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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2017, 01:40:58 PM »

I think you are simplifying the event Mido.

Here is a scenario:

The bomber is stood discreetly in the street. People start leaving early (they always do) and the bomber simply walks through the increasing crowds, unnoticed into the public foyer. Within seconds he detonates.
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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2017, 01:44:44 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.


Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.

Dont seem to bother with other big events.

That has to change.
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« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2017, 01:46:05 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.


Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.

Dont seem to bother with other big events.

That has to change.

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« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2017, 01:46:17 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.


Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.

Dont seem to bother with other big events.

That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.

Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events


Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.
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« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2017, 01:47:25 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.


Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.

Dont seem to bother with other big events.

That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.

Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events


Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.

10,000 at an arena makes it has valid for the cops as football matches.

All big sporting events have cops.

No excuses.
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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2017, 01:49:53 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.


Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.

Dont seem to bother with other big events.

That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.

Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events


Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.

10,000 at an arena makes it has valid for the cops as football matches.

No excuses.

There's a reason why matches  are policed.  Silly to suggest you can cover everything.
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2017, 01:51:27 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.


Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.

Dont seem to bother with other big events.

That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.

Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events


Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.

10,000 at an arena makes it has valid for the cops as football matches.

No excuses.

There's a reason why matches  are policed.  Silly to suggest you can cover everything.

Theres a reason why big events should be policed pretty clearly.  souey

Cops should be about protecting the people not just arresting football fans.
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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2017, 01:55:51 PM »

No big footy matches last night and theres always plenty of coppers at Man U.

The Clubs pay for police presences so should arenas.
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2017, 02:17:21 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.


Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.

Dont seem to bother with other big events.

That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.

Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events


Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.

10,000 at an arena makes it has valid for the cops as football matches.

All big sporting events have cops.

No excuses.


When do you decide an event should be policed.

10 000 people

5000

1000

500
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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2017, 02:18:42 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.


Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.

Dont seem to bother with other big events.

That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.

Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events


Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.

10,000 at an arena makes it has valid for the cops as football matches.

All big sporting events have cops.

No excuses.


When do you decide an event should be policed.

10 000 people

5000

1000

500

Every football game is policed from 1000 crowds up.

Same procedure. Why not?

Theres no more concert of that size then there is football games. In fact a lot less.


You cant police everything, but if you can police football you can police events.
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« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2017, 02:21:57 PM »

Coppers wouldn't stop you hanging around outside a footy ground though??
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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2017, 02:22:33 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.
Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.
Dont seem to bother with other big events.
That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.
Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events
Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.
10,000 at an arena makes it has valid for the cops as football matches.
All big sporting events have cops.
No excuses.
When do you decide an event should be policed.
10 000 people
5000
1000
500
Every football game is policed from 1000 crowds up.
Same procedure. Why not?
Theres no more concert of that size then there is football games. In fact a lot less.
You cant police everything, but if you can police football you can police events.

There was barely any police presence at Boro's championship games

But for arguments sake what do you think half a dozen unarmed police could have achieved at the Manchester arena. And don't forget they would have to be spread over a massive area.
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2017, 02:23:33 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.
Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.
Dont seem to bother with other big events.
That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.
Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events
Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.
10,000 at an arena makes it has valid for the cops as football matches.
All big sporting events have cops.
No excuses.
When do you decide an event should be policed.
10 000 people
5000
1000
500
Every football game is policed from 1000 crowds up.
Same procedure. Why not?
Theres no more concert of that size then there is football games. In fact a lot less.
You cant police everything, but if you can police football you can police events.

There was barely any police presence at Boro's championship games

But for arguments sake what do you think half a dozen unarmed police could have achieved at the Manchester arena. And don't forget they would have to be spread over a massive area.

They might have done something.

Which is a better chance then nothing.
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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2017, 02:24:22 PM »

Coppers wouldn't stop you hanging around outside a footy ground though??

But they might spot stuff better then a 30 for the night student in a high viz jacket.
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2017, 02:25:36 PM »

The the area around arenas need to be blocked off until the crowd disperses.
Always plenty of coppers around at footy matches ready to sling out banging orders and stopping movement of people.
Dont seem to bother with other big events.
That has to change.
Do you think that is practical considering 1000s and 1000s of venues every weeks hold events on a large scale.
Does it only apply to concerts
What about sporting events
Whatever we do the fact is we are a tolerant and liberal society. We have many soft targets from concerts to schools.
10,000 at an arena makes it has valid for the cops as football matches.
All big sporting events have cops.
No excuses.
When do you decide an event should be policed.
10 000 people
5000
1000
500
Every football game is policed from 1000 crowds up.
Same procedure. Why not?
Theres no more concert of that size then there is football games. In fact a lot less.
You cant police everything, but if you can police football you can police events.

There was barely any police presence at Boro's championship games

But for arguments sake what do you think half a dozen unarmed police could have achieved at the Manchester arena. And don't forget they would have to be spread over a massive area.

They might have done something.

Which is a better chance then nothing.

I just don't think it is practical to cover every possible danger zone
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