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« on: May 16, 2017, 11:11:09 AM »

Sounds good to me  :like:

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-39930865
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2017, 11:19:44 AM »

Theres one born every day. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2017, 11:33:40 AM »

All good. Great spending plans. Bursaries back to train nurses to stop the Tories making the NHS unfit for use (as is clearly Hunt's plan purpose). Etc etc.

Or you can vote for the 5% cos Corbyn doesn't eat meat and looks different to others

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2017, 11:45:18 AM »

Labours manifesto

Spend, spend, spend and tax every fooker who has an ambition to better themselves in life  :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: 
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2017, 11:46:37 AM »

All good. Great spending plans. Bursaries back to train nurses to stop the Tories making the NHS unfit for use (as is clearly Hunt's plan purpose). Etc etc.

Or you can vote for the 5% cos Corbyn doesn't eat meat and looks different to others

Turkeys. Christmas.

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2017, 11:48:56 AM »

Other than the world crash in 2008 they always left the country richer than when they took over from the Cons, whom have doubled hundreds of years of debt in just SIX YEARS

Tax and spend??  charles

What shite they drum into dummy's heads.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2017, 11:54:14 AM »

50% of the tax in this country comes from the top 10%

40% comes from the next 40%

10% comes from the lowest 50%

Some might say the higher earners are already doing their bit. 

Not Jezza though.  :jackanory:

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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2017, 11:56:03 AM »

You'll not be affected other than better services 

Go on, tell me you will be  charles charles charles charles
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2017, 11:56:37 AM »

50% of the tax in this country comes from the top 10%

40% comes from the next 40%

10% comes from the lowest 50%

Some might say the higher earners are already doing their bit. 

Not Jezza though.  :jackanory:



Is that true?
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2017, 11:57:05 AM »

50% of the tax in this country comes from the top 10%

40% comes from the next 40%

10% comes from the lowest 50%

Some might say the higher earners are already doing their bit. 

Not Jezza though.  :jackanory:



Is that true?

It's written on cob so it is now
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2017, 12:06:47 PM »

50% of the tax in this country comes from the top 10%

40% comes from the next 40%

10% comes from the lowest 50%

Some might say the higher earners are already doing their bit. 

Not Jezza though.  :jackanory:



Is that true?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39641222

A quarter of tax is paid by the top 1%.


the bottom 50% pay 10% of the tax collected.

The rest of us pay the rest.
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2017, 12:17:22 PM »

Please can you expand on this Mido, i'd like to see where you are getting these figures from
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 12:31:55 PM »

Yes, the distribution of wealth is fair
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2017, 12:42:21 PM »

Please can you expand on this Mido, i'd like to see where you are getting these figures from

Its from the BBC.  

The link is there.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2017, 12:44:05 PM »

Please can you expand on this Mido, i'd like to see where you are getting these figures from

Its from the BBC.  

The link is there.

You've previously said the BBC push an agenda.
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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2017, 12:55:17 PM »

Please can you expand on this Mido, i'd like to see where you are getting these figures from

Its from the BBC.  

The link is there.

You've previously said the BBC push an agenda.

But clearly the opposite one.  charles
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2017, 12:55:27 PM »

You'll not be affected other than better services 

Go on, tell me you will be  charles charles charles charles

The ting that annoys me are all the public sector non-jobs which will rocket - stuff like PR & Comms for hospitals, diversity outreach directors etc. If that money was spent on actual proper jobs, ie nurses, then I may be convinced
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2017, 01:15:13 PM »

Other than the world crash in 2008 they always left the country richer than when they took over from the Cons, whom have doubled hundreds of years of debt in just SIX YEARS

Tax and spend??  charles

What shite they drum into dummy's heads.

Don't be fucking silly.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2017, 01:19:23 PM »

50% of the tax in this country comes from the top 10%

40% comes from the next 40%

10% comes from the lowest 50%

Some might say the higher earners are already doing their bit. 

Not Jezza though.  :jackanory:



I would say it shows the years of growth have just helped the High Earners help themselves to more. If thier 40% is so much more than the Majority we hardly have an economy which is working for the Majority.

Great to see a real choice for a change. Not a race to the bottom. All costed as well so no need to worry  :homer:

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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2017, 01:26:02 PM »

...by Dianne Abbott

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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2017, 01:28:17 PM »

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/-/Images/manifesto-2017/Funding%20Britain%27s%20Future.PDF

More details on the costing
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2017, 03:16:48 PM »

50% of the tax in this country comes from the top 10%

40% comes from the next 40%

10% comes from the lowest 50%

Some might say the higher earners are already doing their bit. 

Not Jezza though.  :jackanory:



Is that true?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39641222

A quarter of tax is paid by the top 1%.


the bottom 50% pay 10% of the tax collected.

The rest of us pay the rest.

Think that is just income tax so doesn't take into account all the other tax avoidance the top few percent indulge in and it doesnt include taxes that are not progressive which hit lowest earners disproportionately
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2017, 03:23:07 PM »


Not much detail in those details mate

 
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2017, 03:36:31 PM »

Investing in the nhs
free education
cheaper rail fares
controlled energy costs

All sound marvellous, but who do you think is paying for it? We are, hardworking people with good jobs. The people labour care about are lazy cunts who don't have a job or have a minimum wage job because they have been a lazy useless bastard not able to stick at anything in their life. So somehow I should be shamed into feeding the guy working in a factory because he preferred playing call of duty instead of studying.
Because he never took any risk or made the huge sacrifices plenty on here are making.

Towz are you paying full u.k tax? I suspect your attitude might be different if you were. Why should you go work in shitholes countries, bust your balls, making massive sacrifices to pay for the guy who likes to watch tv and breed instead of do what you do?
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2017, 03:42:05 PM »

Photo of the manifesto.....



Not even the comfy sort.

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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2017, 03:43:21 PM »



All sound marvellous, but who do you think is paying for it? We are, hardworking people with good jobs. The people labour care about are lazy cunts who don't have a job or have a minimum wage job because they have been a lazy useless bastard not able to stick at anything in their life.

Jesus wept are you that far up your own arse.
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2017, 03:46:38 PM »

He has no interest in the security of this country

£10 a hour minimum wage is ludicrous that would cripple businesses and see a rapid increase of unemployment the cost of living would go through the roof

For the first time I can't see myself voting

I voted torries last two elections as I thought DC was only leader among them

This time round your left with May who is a massive pleb

Jezza who is a huge cunt

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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2017, 03:51:48 PM »



All sound marvellous, but who do you think is paying for it? We are, hardworking people with good jobs. The people labour care about are lazy cunts who don't have a job or have a minimum wage job because they have been a lazy useless bastard not able to stick at anything in their life.

Jesus wept are you that far up your own arse.

What part of what I have said is untrue? Please try respond to the point other than childish generic drivel in your previous post. It is an uncomfortable truth than those who are attacked are actually the people who are holding the country together.

If I got another tax increase, I'll be off to China and other people will go too. Soon the country suffers from a brain drain. It is like the movie Idiocracy, you'll be considered intelligent by the end of it.
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All sound marvellous, but who do you think is paying for it? We are, hardworking people with good jobs. The people labour care about are lazy cunts who don't have a job or have a minimum wage job because they have been a lazy useless bastard not able to stick at anything in their life.

Jesus wept are you that far up your own arse.

What part of what I have said is untrue? Please try respond to the point other than childish generic drivel in your previous post. It is an uncomfortable truth than those who are attacked are actually the people who are holding the country together.

If I got another tax increase, I'll be off to China and other people will go too. Soon the country suffers from a brain drain. It is like the movie Idiocracy, you'll be considered intelligent by the end of it.

If I got another tax increase, I'll be off to China



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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2017, 03:56:01 PM »

Investing in the nhs
free education
cheaper rail fares
controlled energy costs

All sound marvellous, but who do you think is paying for it?
24, 37 Corporation tax (see below) 19.4
25, 37 Income tax increases for Top 5 per cent (see below) 6.4
26 Excessive Pay Levy 1.3
27 Offshore Company Property Levy 1.6
28 Labour’s Tax Avoidance programme 6.5
29 Extension of Stamp Duty Reserve Tax to derivatives and removal of exemption 5.6
30 Efficiency review of corporate tax reliefs 3.8
31 to 33 Reversing tax giveaways on Capital Gains Tax, Inheritance Tax, bank levy and scrapping
the married persons’ tax allowance 3.7
34 VAT on private school fees 1.6
35, 36
Other: savings on Discretionary Housing Payments from scrapping bedroom tax,
Soft Drinks Industry Levy spend redirected from capital to revenue, higher rate IPT
on medical insurance, reform Controlled Foreign Companies corporation tax regime
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37 Allowance made for additional behavioural change and uncertainty, reducing total
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My gripe is The Defence Budget

When in actual reality it should be called

The Attack Budget..

so kindly ask your Afganistani or Iraqi neighbours..

Please note During these conflicts

NO poppy fields were damaged merely harvested for Money hungry Western investors

According to May We are no longer a Nation of Conquest or invasion..

 rava rava rava rava rava
 rava rava rava rava rava

Defence Budget my arse

First they scare you Then promise to protect you..

Very secular in nature..
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2017, 03:57:19 PM »



All sound marvellous, but who do you think is paying for it? We are, hardworking people with good jobs. The people labour care about are lazy cunts who don't have a job or have a minimum wage job because they have been a lazy useless bastard not able to stick at anything in their life.

Jesus wept are you that far up your own arse.

What part of what I have said is untrue? Please try respond to the point other than childish generic drivel in your previous post. It is an uncomfortable truth than those who are attacked are actually the people who are holding the country together.

If I got another tax increase, I'll be off to China and other people will go too. Soon the country suffers from a brain drain. It is like the movie Idiocracy, you'll be considered intelligent by the end of it.

There are people not on the minimum wage "struggling".  
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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2017, 04:00:54 PM »

Struggling how? Not being able to buy everything they want? The new nike air for their kids or the new kitchen the mrs wants? It is very easy in this country to be able to pay the bills, feed and cloth yourself. Very easy. There is almost no excuse for somebody who can't. People live beyond their means why should I fund that? If I had to live in £300 a week, I could.

If you want more than that, then you better find a way to earn more.
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2017, 04:01:32 PM »

If I got another tax increase, I'll be off to China and other people will go too.

Thats costed too - last item in the published figures

Allowance made for additional behavioural change and uncertainty, reducing total
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2017, 04:06:44 PM »

Struggling how? Not being able to buy everything they want? The new nike air for their kids or the new kitchen the mrs wants? It is very easy in this country to be able to pay the bills, feed and cloth yourself. Very easy. There is almost no excuse for somebody who can't. People live beyond their means why should I fund that? If I had to live in £300 a week, I could.

If you want more than that, then you better find a way to earn more.

Its the broken Housing Market which means your statement is nonsense and ignores reality.
Nurses needing to use Food Banks is not down to a very complex set of issues. Its down to people needing food - The UK compares only to Greece whan you look at the reduction in REAL WAGES from 2007 to 2015.

The sick and disabled had to put up with income cuts its the top 5% earners turn.
The exact same people who have not suffered since 2008 and the people whio crashed the system with greed then.

If you dont like it you can go to China!
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2017, 04:12:38 PM »

https://www.ft.com/content/83e7e87e-fe64-11e6-96f8-3700c5664d30

Between 2007 and 2015, the UK was the only big advanced economy in which wages contracted while the economy expanded. In most other countries, including France and Germany, both the economy and wages have grown.


I love how the top performers in the OECD are those that stayed away from Austerity
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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with that lot?
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Other than the world crash in 2008 they always left the country richer than when they took over from the Cons, whom have doubled hundreds of years of debt in just SIX YEARS

Tax and spend??  charles

What shite they drum into dummy's heads.

Don't be fucking silly.


http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/7568/debt/government-debt-under-labour-1997-2010/

No one will read that.
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« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2017, 04:25:29 PM »



All sound marvellous, but who do you think is paying for it? We are, hardworking people with good jobs. The people labour care about are lazy cunts who don't have a job or have a minimum wage job because they have been a lazy useless bastard not able to stick at anything in their life.

Jesus wept are you that far up your own arse.

What part of what I have said is untrue? Please try respond to the point other than childish generic drivel in your previous post. It is an uncomfortable truth than those who are attacked are actually the people who are holding the country together.

If I got another tax increase, I'll be off to China and other people will go too. Soon the country suffers from a brain drain. It is like the movie Idiocracy, you'll be considered intelligent by the end of it.
what would you do there,can you speak the lingo," u bi mi ster lift cookie boy". mcl
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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with that lot?

thought you were an accountant bob  lost
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« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2017, 04:33:50 PM »

9% fall in UK Corporation Tax since tories got in, but just for bigger companies, not the small ones.
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« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2017, 04:35:22 PM »

Struggling how? Not being able to buy everything they want? The new nike air for their kids or the new kitchen the mrs wants? It is very easy in this country to be able to pay the bills, feed and cloth yourself. Very easy. There is almost no excuse for somebody who can't. People live beyond their means why should I fund that? If I had to live in £300 a week, I could.

If you want more than that, then you better find a way to earn more.

Its the broken Housing Market which means your statement is nonsense and ignores reality.
Nurses needing to use Food Banks is not down to a very complex set of issues. Its down to people needing food - The UK compares only to Greece whan you look at the reduction in REAL WAGES from 2007 to 2015.

The sick and disabled had to put up with income cuts its the top 5% earners turn.
The exact same people who have not suffered since 2008 and the people whio crashed the system with greed then.

If you dont like it you can go to China!

Nurses do not need to use food banks that is bullshit. if they are using food banks it is because they cannot manage their finances. I know three nurses, one only graduated just over a year ago on a free uni course that had a bursary and is on over £30k with over time which there is plenty of. That's a decent wage on Teesside. The other two are on £50k+

Yes wages have been reduced relatively because of a mass recession, that's what happens, except of course it didn't happen to nurses or anybody else in the public sector so your choice is vocation is utter nonsense.

People getting less handouts is not the same as taking more money off somebody who has worked for it. We have a benefits culture in this country full of lazy chunts claiming to be disabled. they are the people who are stopping really needy people get the money that is needed.

Yesterday some crank attacked May demanding her carer back, there was fuck all wrong with her. She could easily get a job in kfc.

Money doesn't just appear, this is a jungle not everybody can be a lion or an elephant but there's people who could be zebra's being vultures instead. If you can't survive perhaps society is better without you. We should be protecting those really in need. Not lazy cunts who want an extra bedroom so their 6 kids can have a playroom.  :wanker: :wanker: :wanker:
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« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2017, 04:39:11 PM »

Below are working wages not handouts
Can you not see what has happend to the UK and why more of the same is nonsense



As for Nurses BURSARIES have now been cut.
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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with that lot?

Aside from the fact most of it is an attacking on successful people. It is also idiotic. 20% tax on private schools has a fixed number. In which business would that be acceptable for a moving target that will reduce based on their strategy? Corbyn should take over coca cola, all he needs to do is change their can to £2 per can and they have 3billion extra a year.

Fucking moronic.

So £80k+ is the super rich now? People have made investments, bought houses, planned so they just have to change everything because that commie cunt thinks taking their money to give bone idle bastards who work in the civil service a pay increase is a good idea?

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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2017, 04:41:15 PM »

Below are working wages not handouts
Can you not see what has happend to the UK and why more of the same is nonsense



As for Nurses BURSARIES have now been cut.

I'm fully aware of the wage reduction. Down to 2 things. Labours miss migration policy and the recession they managed so poorly.

I am aware the bursaries have now been cut but that effects exactly 0 current nurses. So it is irrelevant.
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« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2017, 04:42:59 PM »

Yes wages have been reduced relatively because of a mass recession

   A recession that only happened in Greece and the UK  :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker: :wanker:

Pay the 5p in the pound or go to China  
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« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2017, 04:44:27 PM »

I'm fully aware of the wage reduction. Down to 2 things. Labours miss migration policy and the recession they managed so poorly.

This happened under the Conservaties in the main 2007 to 2015.   
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